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Stoatstail50 

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Posted on: Dec. 07 2011,09:03 |
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Edited.
-------------- Casting Definitions Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.
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Malcolm 

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Posted on: Dec. 07 2011,11:00 |
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It's worth trying out these suggestions. Actually attempting to cast with the upper hand or lower hand as a fixed point is incredibly difficult. After seeing the video that Magnus posted of Bill Lowe (skip the first three minutes) I attemped to cast as Bill initially suggested with a rigid upper hand. It's possible but the lower hand becomes very cramped. Worse, it is damn near impossible to make a decent cast for a number of reasons: on the backcast the upper hand has to move into a position to make the cast. Then it must move forward against the pull of the lower hand. I simply can't see how that is possible without a postive movement.
While still focusing on the bottom hand as the main provider of power but making a positive squeeze on the upper hand makes things just about perfect. It's not called two handed casting for nothing.
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springer 

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Posted on: Dec. 07 2011,18:44 |
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Nobody has ever suggested a cast is made with only one hand while the other remains immobile, the top hand has to move to give the required stroke length but little or nothing else.
The nub of this debate is that one hand has a gob to do in supplying most of the effort required to load the rod. The other hand (ie; top hand) both steers the rod tip and provides the necessary fulcrum and stop.
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Alejandro 

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Posted on: Dec. 08 2011,09:35 |
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Springer, I believe that you do not understand that if both hands move practically in equal measure, we cannot say that one is more fulcrum than other.
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Paul Arden 
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Posted on: Dec. 08 2011,15:09 |
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Would it not also be the case then when applying, what we feel is predominantly bottom hand force, that it is easier to cast a higher trajectory tip path? There is a very interesting feeling in single handed casting where you get the entire body underneath the thumb and launch upwards, as opposed to doming over with the body. I would suppose that pulling in with the bottom hand facilitates that launch.
Cheers, Paul
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springer 

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Posted on: Dec. 08 2011,16:44 |
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What are you trying to say Aitor?
Your plotting of my top hand is not accurate, if it was you would see that my bottom hand moves about 50% further than my top hand. Hence I don't move my hands in equal measure as I have already stated.
I calculated this from my screen using straight lines, ie start and stop positions. I'm fairly sure if the actual curved path was measured it would possibly be even more.
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