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Hey guys,
I think this is a very good video:

http://vimeo.com/26829591

Thanks a lot, Aitor!
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Absolutely, thanks Aitor and you Bernd  :)

However I think I've only encountered the postulate that the anchor loads the rod in a few articles and books, and on a German forum some years ago  ;)

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it's been written here as well, Lasse. (can't remember by who though)

most excellent work Aitor and Bernd, thanks  :)

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I like to use my cat for the anchor when practicing on grass.  :p

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(Lasse Karlsson @ Jul. 24 2011,21:42)
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I've only encountered the postulate that the anchor loads the rod
Cheers
Lasse

Hi Lasse,
agree it was written in some sources for a few years now that nobody else than the caster loads the rod.

But it's a different question if the caster (who loads the rod) needs the anker for highest efficiency (in road loading).
Besides this one now I haven't seen any slow motion vids based on this topic. For sure I haven't seen them all  :) ...

However you always do a great job and adding some additional light into the details of fly casting for sure. I always have an eye on your vids, too.  :cool:  Keep em coming!!!

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(Lasse Karlsson @ Jul. 24 2011,22:42)
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However I think I've only encountered the postulate that the anchor loads the rod in a few articles and books, and on a German forum some years ago  ;)

Humm, some others seem to have found that postulate stated more often:
Thing is, in the stuff I've been looking at there are loads of claims that the anchor contributes to loading the rod. In fact one noted Spey caster says the anchor is what the rod loads against.

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(Marc LaMouche @ Jul. 24 2011,23:34)
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it's been written here as well, Lasse. (can't remember by who though)

It has been written here many times.

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Aitor and Bernd,

You are producing some excellent videos that tell a very convincing story.  

It is good that the use of high speed videos can dispel some traditional explanations regarding the mechanics of  casting and we can begin to see what is really going on.  Great work, and I hope you will continue to come up with interesting new topics.

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For years flycasting has been summarized in sentences like “loading the rod and then unloading it to propel the line”. This mantra, repeated so many times, led to the idea that every action by the caster that results in rod loading is good just due to that; logically, from that we should deduct that our casting problems come from failing to load the rod.

This is totally misleading because the main use of loading/unloading the rod is not to propel the line whatsoever. The function of rod loading is to allow us to apply force in the direction of the target along a longer distance, so we can transfer more energy to the line.


That little tidbit brought tears to my eyes. :yeahhh:

The next time you do this you might try looking at the bending in the rod that is related to inertial bending.  You do not need to be pulling against an anchor or accelerating line in the D loop to make the rod bend.  The inertial loading (just rotating the rod with no line attached) and aerodynamic drag  will produce significant bending of the rod that is much larger than most people realize.

Gordy

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