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Since I am not limited by backcast obstackes fishing the salt, I don't need to shoot line into headwinds and don't try when casting vertically. I suscribe to all that Paul just said. Given a downward trajectory and good line speed into strong headwinds, an initial wide loop at loop formation doesn't...

I can't find it, Marc. I'll check the other computers and if I find it will upload it.

Paul, 1. I did not explain that well enough. What I meant, and why I put "early" in quotation marks is that Bruce is not hauling "early", but, rather, he has already changed his trajectory (upwards) , and his haul is occurring at the end of rotation ending at or beyond RSP1 (if he is not getting tai...

Paul, I can only respond to the inverse of your question since my muscle mass has been decreasing since about age 60, as well as overall mass (with the exception of my core guard - but that's hardly muscle). So my stroke evolution has been evolving from vertical casting on long casts to off-vertical...

quote=Bruce Could it be the time of the haul during the stroke that dictates where the SLP occurs and therefore where the launch point of the loop occurs through the arc? I supposed that's one way to look at it. Most people time the haul to occur sometime around or after RSP1. So if you haul "early...

Or better yet what are the typical faults seen when casting that type fly? I think there is a self-preservation tendency to rush the forward cast with heavy permit crab type flies.. So, with the fly leg not completely unrolled, an early forward cast causes the heavy fly to swing down too low before...

I also cast primarily by feel - mostly in my line hand. A lot of my fishing has been done in the dark. I'm referring here to night-time dark, not the other one which I also spend considerable time fishing in.

Cheers,
Jim