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Post Number:#41  Postby Merlin » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:46 pm

how can the rod be bent during a cast?

Dag,

The answer was in my post:
Without hauling, the force at tip pulling on the line (line mass * line acceleration) equals the force deflecting the (spring of) the rod (rod stiffness * rod deflection).
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Anytime you accelerate the line you deflect the rod. This is valid for the cast and the haul too.

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Post Number:#42  Postby Dag Midtgard » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:53 pm

Thanks Merlin! Very much appreciated...
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Post Number:#43  Postby Merlin » Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:33 pm

Dag

I see you deleted a post about rod loading. I use loading and unloading, it just sounds better that than deflecting and undeflecting (if this one exists). I do not think there is an official term in physics, if so I forgot it since my scholarship.

The rod stores elastic energy as it is loaded by the cast and this energy is given back to the line after "unloading" (neglecting some unavoidable losses).

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Post Number:#44  Postby Dag Midtgard » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:42 pm

Merlin, I deleted it in order to refrase my question...
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Post Number:#45  Postby Lasse Karlsson » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:01 pm

Dag Midtgard wrote:Lasse!
Still waiting for your suggestions....

However, the video you show a link to may be a hood one standing where you stand, on the grass... however, I am a flyfisherman, not a flacasterman, and to be frankly the cast you show I can not see any use for in a fishing situation... why? Just becsuse when fishin you very often are standing in water to knee high, and, your loop/leader end is very low, almost knee/waist..

I have all respect for you as a caster/fisherman, but then it would be good that we discuss casting on the same premises, fishing or casting...


Hi Dag

Sorry real life comes way before virtual and free casting advice on the net :)

So you want me to stand in water with a eletronic device strapped to me and redoing the clip before you can use it :D
Get an imagination! That clip was done to look closely at when to best release the line, it also benefits in showing and busting several casting myths that selfclaimed flyfishermen like to cling onto.

Feedback on your cast.You start your roation/movement/cast way before the line is ready to do the same, it is very easy to see. Secondly you also still feed line from your haul as you start your rotation/movement/cast. This is both ways, front and backcast. Loads of wasted movement and energy.

Casting is casting, fishing is what we do after the cast, when the fly is in the water.

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Post Number:#46  Postby Dag Midtgard » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:59 am

Lasse!
Thank you very much for your excellent feedback, I am really happy that you claim I do things quite differently than the usual way...

Is this technique quite different from what you and your casting federation are teaching?
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Post Number:#47  Postby Dag Midtgard » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:32 am

Lasse...

I guess many would have paid for advices if there were an online option for it!!

Just a quick follow up question... you say that according to your style of teaching/casting, that I am to early in the timing of the back- and frontcast... when do you think one should start touching the line in the front- and backcast...
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