Tendency to tail

[Lou Bruno]

Craig
Your description admittedly is the first time I heard it described that way.
Lou

[VGB]

The reason it is a fault: Watch the loop roll out, and observe the direction of fly as it finishes. Instead of turning over at target, instead of being the most forward piece of the cast at it's finish, the fly lifts (rises) and then 'columnizes', puddling.

It is not good for a Distance cast, and especially shitty for Accuracy.

Craig

Kin handy presentation cast when you have gnarly currents to deal with.

Regards

Vince

[Paul Arden]

Hi Lou,

If you watch my 90ft carry video on sexyloops.tv there are some backcasts - at the end from memory - that verge right on tailing/tendency to tail. I actually believe that distance casting is right on the edge of tendency to tail and it is about finding the fine line and being just on the other side of it which is where it best comes together.

While it's a fault in instructor exams or indeed any time you want a straight line (and difficult to control for presentations apart from seriously collapsed casts as well as some curve casts) in real terms in distance casting it's a useful gauge as to how close to optimum you are.

Cheers, Paul

[Mangrove Cuckoo]

In the videos this Sivirgolato cast appears to be from a rod plane more vertical than horizontal?

I have been trying it from a more horizontal rod plane from explanations by Jeff Barefoot... with not much luck.

In either case... is the fly leg under the rod leg?

[Paul Arden]

No the fly leg has to be over the rod leg to allow the fly pop back over.

[easterncaster]

Craig
Your description admittedly is the first time I heard it described that way.
Lou

Thanks? Lou...

As well, per the FiFi exams: While there is nothing (that I recall) directly naming Tailing Tendencies (TTs) as a fault, there is a requirement (in the exam preamble) stating that the candidate's loops are to have parallel legs (definition of 'parallel' is on website). TTs do not fit within those specs..

[Graeme H]

My examiners grilled me on it, wanting me to give that loop a name. I didn't have one, but I knew it wasn't a tailing loop because the line only "crosses" once. Tails have two intersection points when viewed from the side.

The answer they wanted was "trailing loop".

Cheers,
Graeme

[Paul Arden]

The terms underslung and trailing are both pretty recent. I much prefer underslung. It is also sometimes called a closed loop.

However unless you have completely parallel legs there will always be some angle of vision from which the loop appears closed.

Cheers, Paul

[Lasse Karlsson]

I first heard the term "trailing loop" ten years ago, in Australia. And thats also the only place I've heard it used. I prefer underslung.

Cheers
Lasse

[Paul Arden]

When I first heard the term trailing loop my first thought was dangling end.