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Creep and Drag-effective on rod load

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We know the effect that creep and drag have on the casting stroke length, will both diminish the load on the rod during the casting stroke?
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Creep increase the rod bend because it shortens the following casting stroke which needs to come more powerful! Drag accelerates line so I can't say its effect to rod bend but I think it also increase rod bend because rod rotating phase shortens.

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No it depends what follows. FFI Drag and SL Drag are different. The way I see Drag is because it's part of he CS it increases its length. In many instances Creep is followed by excess force (perhaps as compensation, but more likely it's ingrained). Rod Bend is determined by acceleration.

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I actually have a real problem with the way the IFF has defined Drag. I'd love to see them explain it :laugh:
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Me too :p

And I would really like to know when the stroke starts, preferably have someone point it out in a video clip, I have tons :whistle:

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Just a thought
Would pullback be like a minimun beging of drag? :p

Also I heard SLIDE before, anything on SLIDE guys?
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You pullback, then you drift so no :p

And slide, aren't you missing a word there ;)
Otherwise slide is basicly the same as drag while feeding back the line.

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Lasse Karlsson wrote:You pullback, then you drift so no :p

And slide, aren't you missing a word there ;)
Otherwise slide is basicly the same as drag while feeding back the line.

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1) I pullback then I drag ( no drift) its ok, I got it

2) slide- im not sure what Im missing, but your explanation is what I was thinking about- thank you.
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Hi Mike, Slide is similar to Drag except the rod hand moves towards the hauling hand and therefore is a form of Drift. Whereas with Drag the stroke has begun with translation. Typically in my 170 stroke there is about 50/50 slide/Drag.

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Wait wait wait.
   Slide/drag can not be a part of drift.
Drift from what I know is the rod moving in the direction of unrolling loop.
  Even if I use stopless stroke,and before I go forward i strech my body and reach as far as I can on my back cast while the loop is unroling- and this is DRIFT FOR ME. With a carry of 90' even after drift ( I cant strech more) I start DRAG ( with loop still unroling).

   Now SLIDE, Im with Lasse here,
If I shoot line on the long back cast and then I start ( what few might think DRAG), but Im actualy sliding the rod as the line is moving through the guides, so I did not block my haul, and Im not draging anything...

  Am I right?, Its Sexyloops- you tell me ha ha ha
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