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Tailing fish( Carp)
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Tailing fish( Carp)
This is the money maker for my carp. Small dumbbell eyes for the deep fish (3 ft) and i use chain eyes for the ones in less water (the ones I usually target). Tied on a hook normally used for bonefish...
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Is this cheating???ha ha
There you go. I am addicted to carp fly fishing in Australia. Carp here is named the hardest pulling fresh water fish.
Now, first I think I underestimate that fish. I have never had my fly rod in full bend and reaching the backing from a screaming reel. Aussie Carp can do that.
In certen places here, yes you wait for the fish to eat your fly, but in the creeks in the middle of the city even if they are feeding they wont take a fly(as sexy as they look)
... this fish is not very spooky( where I fish)
I see them crusing, or standing close to the surface. I cast my fly over them, or in front of them and let them line up with in striking zone. Then strip strike or striking by lifting the rod.
Hookups are whenever, side, tail, cheen...
I feel like Im not doing what I supose too, but on the end of the day who cares. The positive sides are
- casting is chalanging, fast shots to a crusing fish. Walking with the fly inhand along the bank and then boom
- once hooked, the fun is amazing
- i help aussie enviroment by removing carp from local waters( aussie law)
One ate my fly in a cloud of mud, but could not land it( steep bank), landing net is already prepared for Tuesday.
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There you go. I am addicted to carp fly fishing in Australia. Carp here is named the hardest pulling fresh water fish.
Now, first I think I underestimate that fish. I have never had my fly rod in full bend and reaching the backing from a screaming reel. Aussie Carp can do that.
In certen places here, yes you wait for the fish to eat your fly, but in the creeks in the middle of the city even if they are feeding they wont take a fly(as sexy as they look)
... this fish is not very spooky( where I fish)
I see them crusing, or standing close to the surface. I cast my fly over them, or in front of them and let them line up with in striking zone. Then strip strike or striking by lifting the rod.
Hookups are whenever, side, tail, cheen...
I feel like Im not doing what I supose too, but on the end of the day who cares. The positive sides are
- casting is chalanging, fast shots to a crusing fish. Walking with the fly inhand along the bank and then boom
- once hooked, the fun is amazing
- i help aussie enviroment by removing carp from local waters( aussie law)
One ate my fly in a cloud of mud, but could not land it( steep bank), landing net is already prepared for Tuesday.
Cheers
Mike
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Marabou flies looks like this when wet. With a bit of water movement they wiggle like a worm. It is most about worm looking like.
Andrew do you think they are selective?
Once sucking the mud, do they see what they sucking in? Or they will suck whatever crosses their mouth?
In the clear lake- last monday. I see them crusing. Cast the marabou ( most of the flies are slow sinking) fly. He turns, inspects, suck it- i striked too early- spooked- gone.
Comes back after 10min, cast same fly, he aproaches, looks at it and turs around.
On the 5th cast I think he get pissed of with 4 inspections and refusals and sucked the fly with anger. My leader- tipet conection was shit, so now he swims with my fly and 6feet of tipet.
But in this mudy, tailing situation, have you found the selective?
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Mike
Andrew do you think they are selective?
Once sucking the mud, do they see what they sucking in? Or they will suck whatever crosses their mouth?
In the clear lake- last monday. I see them crusing. Cast the marabou ( most of the flies are slow sinking) fly. He turns, inspects, suck it- i striked too early- spooked- gone.
Comes back after 10min, cast same fly, he aproaches, looks at it and turs around.
On the 5th cast I think he get pissed of with 4 inspections and refusals and sucked the fly with anger. My leader- tipet conection was shit, so now he swims with my fly and 6feet of tipet.
But in this mudy, tailing situation, have you found the selective?
Cheers
Mike
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Well I never snag them. That’s no fun for me. But I guess the “all snagged fish must be returned to the water” rule doesn’t apply to Carp!
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Yeah, I feel a bit bad too. But after a big run and a tension on the line they eventualy pin off and swim free. I dont need to have them in my hand and kill them.that is why no pictuers yet
I had fun, let them swim...
Hey, you putting an elephant dung on your line- that is not alowed too ha ha
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I had fun, let them swim...
Hey, you putting an elephant dung on your line- that is not alowed too ha ha
Mike
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And friend of mine - Jim Curry - was fishing with a guy in NZ who was obviously trying to snag a trout he couldn’t hook fairly. That’s completely against the rules. When I can’t catch a fish I tip my hat to it and move on.
Occasionally I have fished one of Dave’s Dead Caddises to spook it. This gives me a certain amount of satisfaction.
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Occasionally I have fished one of Dave’s Dead Caddises to spook it. This gives me a certain amount of satisfaction.
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My best carp fly is a lightly weighted olive damsel nymph. I’ll post a picture on Tuesday when I’m back on the boat. If you use this you’ll never need to snag them again because they can’t refuse it
It’s also one of my best trout flies. Basically it’s an adaption of John Goddard’s marabou mayfly nymph. It’s a simple pattern that’s basically remain unchanged for 30 years. It’s caught thousands of trout and hundreds of carp (plus a few barbel).
In my last few years of NZ fishing I started tying them short and on smaller hooks on the harder fished flats. I think it would have some mileage in small sizes on chalkstreams too. I’ve recently tied a few up on Bonefish hooks for Giant Gourami. It worked well when I fished with Stu in Australia and caught all my carp. You drop it front of the carp and when he’s close you move the fly one inch. If he refuses then drop a size. Perfect HT4 territory!
Cheers. Paul
It’s also one of my best trout flies. Basically it’s an adaption of John Goddard’s marabou mayfly nymph. It’s a simple pattern that’s basically remain unchanged for 30 years. It’s caught thousands of trout and hundreds of carp (plus a few barbel).
In my last few years of NZ fishing I started tying them short and on smaller hooks on the harder fished flats. I think it would have some mileage in small sizes on chalkstreams too. I’ve recently tied a few up on Bonefish hooks for Giant Gourami. It worked well when I fished with Stu in Australia and caught all my carp. You drop it front of the carp and when he’s close you move the fly one inch. If he refuses then drop a size. Perfect HT4 territory!
Cheers. Paul
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Fuck, now I feel bad, but it was only one session. That is it. Or they eat it, or I go home.
Cheers
Mike
Cheers
Mike