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How to knot thin “knottable” wire

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Re: How to knot thin “knottable” wire

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Thanks Bendix. I’ve read that too. That also worries me because how much force does it take to set the knot? What’s the point of 35lb wire if it breaks at 10-15lbs :D

I’ll try breaking some later. That’s always exciting!

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Re: How to knot thin “knottable” wire

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Hi Paul

I dealt with the same problem some 2 years ago and found a knot that worked. Unfortunately I can't remember anymore 🤔 Will try to find some old leader, bitnnot sure if I have one here with me in Uganda.
You are talking about the TiNi mono-wire, right?

Another solution that worked was to use a strong but small sheep girls ring for the connection - I got some good ones from a german fishing line company (can't recall the name, the one that makes the high quality nylon I left you last time).

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My goodness Flavio. Is there anything you can remember? :D

I wonder about inserting it into hollow braid and glueing it in place? I bet that would work perfectly.

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Re: How to knot thin “knottable” wire

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Hi Paul

I can remember the flats-shirt that you still owe to me :pirate:

This was the knot:
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I covered the knot with flexible UV-resin (from Loon), to avoid that the tag end of the wire catches weeds and picks my finger.

These are the rings, the company is Stroft:
https://www.aspo-gmbh.de/shop/stroft-vo ... /index.htm

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Right, I don’t remember the Flats Shirt :D :D

What strength wire are you using? That’s similar to a Slim Beauty. I can’t make that bow tie/figure 8 in the wire tighten. And then because it doesn’t tighten the mono has nothing to snug against. The wire is 35lbs.

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Re: How to knot thin “knottable” wire

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I was using 20 lbs and 3 5lbs. The bow tie does not tighten up completely but enough that the grinner knot does not slip through - might depend on the diameter of the nylon though, I am using something around 50 lbs nylon.

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Hi mate,

How do you think it compares to what we use here for Snakehead?

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Re: How to knot thin “knottable” wire

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Hi Paul,

It is definitely much thinner and therefore probably also stealthier. The higher stiffness could possibly affect the action of the popper in a negative way.

Check out this one: https://www.afwfishing.com/afw_products ... um_1x7.asp
It is a 7 strand Titanium based leader - I tested it in 20 lbs and 50 lbs, and it makes a very good impression. Thinner compared to knotable steel (multi-)wires in the same strength (it is not coated) and very easily knotable. It kinks much less than steel but is also very expensive though :)

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PS: I believe it's thinner - not completely sure.
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Wow that is expensive!!
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Maybe there's some alternatives to ponder. I've never used wire in fly fishing, but did in saltwater many years ago for shark. Didn't like it much, "as why?" became a good question. It's pretty primal and I didn't see busting yourself up and your tackle as sport. It does the shark no favors either. Multi-stranded wire traces have always been available for the toothy flathead in various gauges when using bait. Flexible plastic coatings made them pliable and had swivels on the ends.
Moreover, in a crossover from the wire technique used for shark fishing and the use of a wire former to make spinner lures maybe there's a method that can be adapted/devised for suitable wire to be looped finished onto flies and then looped to tie the leader onto. As I'm implying, this is just a stab in the dark but "wire formers" for fishing purposes are numerous in design in the US. This is one of the more expensive ones but gives the idea of their use.
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