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..and I thought single legs were only used because one whipping was cheaper that two!
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One line size is huge and cannot correspond to guides in terms of stiffness. Snake guides bend easily, the feet can move separately.

As Lasse points out, their influence comes from their mass first.

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Paul Arden wrote:No I assumed it was the rigidity between the snakes.

It’s come from two sources. 1) me taking an XP and going from snakes to single legs and 2) Lars taking an HT and going from single legs to snakes. The difference is around 1 line rating.

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You don’t have to take my word for it - try it!! :D
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It can’t just be mass, Merlin, otherwise snakes would soften the action when compared to singles.

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Hi Paul

I am going to ask to Scott what they think, I did calculations years ago and never found a significant impact, if you were speaking of a fraction of a line number that may be possible, I cannot believe in 1 line size difference.

I have no means to check here: you have access to blanks and guides, so just make the measurements with the methodology I sent you some months ago and let us know.

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I’ll see if I can figure out a way to do this. It would be nice to do it with the same blank but that’s also a bit more challenging! Lars and Ronan both have HT6s with Snakes. In fact Lars has one of each. I’ll ask Lars if he can do the deflection tests!

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Incidentally while Lars says the rod is stiffer, for him it’s still a 6.
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It might not be conclusive, Paul, there are differences in between blanks themselves, and these differences are not negligible sometimes.

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Yes this is true. The obvious one for me when when I reringed my XP5. Lee is very busy at the moment and such a double build test is not currently possible. I have a spare HT Instructor that could do with a rebuild and I could have Snakes fitted. This would be conclusive. I’ll measure it, post it back to the UK and have it transformed when we are not so busy. And then we can measure it again!

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