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This arrived in my inbox today, from Orvis:

NO ROD HAS EVER SILENCED ALL THE VARIABLES

No engineer has ever found a way to transfer backcast energy into forward accuracy. No angler has ever erased all the doubt from his or her mind. First time for everything.


I think this rod needs to be banned before the world champs - surely using it in the accuracy event would be cheating? :ninja:
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And the US team will still be using 30yr old rods! (And kicking our arses!)
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Top class bollocks, it should be hoisted up the flagpole and saluted
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There is no engineer left at Orvis, only marketers, I guess.
A new age is coming.

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James, come on, that has been the sales pitch since it came out :D
Saw a strength chart, it should be double as strong as the generation 1 and 25% as strong as gen 2. We need to see if Paul still breaks them, or if he has corrected his flaw (if he has, we better practice though :oh:) mind you, gen 1 was supposed to be unbreakable :D

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I had a chuckle when I saw that bullshit too.

No angler has ever erased all the doubt from his or her mind.
Obviously catering for the insecure guys out there. Remember guys, size doesn't matter.

Or does it? ;)

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Dude I broke one of their rods with a snap-lift Switch. Put my thumb through the cork and broke the butt section in two on the second cast.

It was actually quite funny because we had just had an hour of graphs showing us the "marketing man's dream" ie the "lightest strongest fly rod ever made". I was being gentle :cool:

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Dude, that was just one of several... Remember Scotland? You went of with a handful of rods, I had to certify, when I was done, there where no rods to try for either me or Mike :whistle:

It was more fun to be thrown of a Hardy castingpool with Mike for not using a rod properly, carrying a flyline to the backingknot is not properly :D

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One of five or six I believe, no more than seven or eight. I was sent one with the "try to break it" mandate. Which I duly did. That took me an hour. I haven't spent two hours casting Helios rods but I've bust many more in that time. I'm not even hitting them. Carbon is carbon: you make it too thin and it will break.

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Every rod building process has its troubles. Voids in the structure of synthetic rods are a source of breakage, for example, and that will remain. I can understand marketing as an advantageous interpretation of reality, not a fake information. Unfortunately, anything can happen to attract customers. IMHO, it looks like a distress action here.

Technique is a source of marketing, but the US team has shown that this is not the most important thing, or viewed differently, it is important but in a way we do not see.

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