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I forgot an important one Lasse. Widen the arc to get a longer tip path. Wich makes it possible to apply more power.
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Good explanations, what is a powerful loop, and why open up the loop to avoid tangles in one direction, but be able to throw a tight loop with speed at the other?Simon Svahn wrote: Lasse
When you cast in head wind want to tilt the casting plane downward and increase line speed so that the line straightens just above the surface. (demo tilt, double haul and maybe cradle grip). If shooting line do it on the backast.
When casting in tail wind you want a plane parallel to the ground or slighly tilted back If no obstackles. Powerful loop on backast to penetrate wind, Wider loop on forward to avoid tangle and flies hitting the rod. Let the wind help you.
What other method that do not require the intermediate student to learn a new skill set, would be OK to teach too for the sidewind onto the casting arm?Then I would demo twisting the wrist (Mel Krieger), casting over opposite shoulder and finally using my other arm.
I never liked the side arm cast in wind.
Simon
And me either, got enough holes in my waders from it
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Thanks for feedback Lasse!
And you are right about the tight loop but it should be powerful. For me a powerful loop is a fast loop with a point on top. Wich actually does not have to be tight. Like a distance loop. When i think of casting in wind i see a picture of Mel Krieger doing a cast he calls the madison cast.
High backast low forward cast. Wider arc that produce longer tip travel wich makes it possible to use more power, Haul.
I think it was chris dore who wrote that he teaches clients to cast infront of The face in tough sidewind. Should be good for tracking and precision. Could be an alternative?
Aaa and you can turn 180 and use your back cast.
Simon
And you are right about the tight loop but it should be powerful. For me a powerful loop is a fast loop with a point on top. Wich actually does not have to be tight. Like a distance loop. When i think of casting in wind i see a picture of Mel Krieger doing a cast he calls the madison cast.
High backast low forward cast. Wider arc that produce longer tip travel wich makes it possible to use more power, Haul.
I think it was chris dore who wrote that he teaches clients to cast infront of The face in tough sidewind. Should be good for tracking and precision. Could be an alternative?
Aaa and you can turn 180 and use your back cast.
Simon
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Hi Simon,
Adding a little knowledge base to Reach mends: Try each method (Shoot, no Shoot) for Accuracy. See which, if either, is more accurate for you, and Why?
Let us know when you have some 'imperial' info...
Craig
Adding a little knowledge base to Reach mends: Try each method (Shoot, no Shoot) for Accuracy. See which, if either, is more accurate for you, and Why?
Let us know when you have some 'imperial' info...
Craig
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Empirical .... damn computer skillseasterncaster wrote:....
Let us know when you have some 'imperial' info...
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Is that like 'I can cast 40 cubits and a span'?
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... that's MCI exam material.
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Hello Simon.Simon Svahn wrote: When you cast in head wind want to tilt the casting plane downward and increase line speed so that the line straightens just above the surface. (demo tilt, double haul and maybe cradle grip). If shooting line do it on the backast.
A lot of candidates (I think) would answer to tilt down trajectory for the forward cast when casting into a head wind.
For me the ideal trajectory depends on the distance, the line and the wind.
High distance: I'd aim my trajectory horizontal cause this leads to much less line surface straight against the wind. The more you tilt down (or up) trajectory, the more line surface will be facing against the wind (as long as the wind moves horizontal like in most situations). Same holds true for unrolling the back cast: I aim horizontal into a tail wind coming towards my back loop.
Short distance: I'd aim downwards directed to the target. This would mean to aim up in the back cast. I'd keep fc & bc along a straight line (180°).
When casting into a headwind I still would shoot line in the forward cast if my head length doesn't reach until the desired target. In case shooting line in my exp. works best in a horizontal plane when casting into a head wind.
All in all I don't understand this to be just one correct answer like upwards, downwards or horizontal. It's in the distance and the wind.
For me the best answer here is:
Adjust trajectory and line speed to the desired casting distance and wind strength in the first place. The more off horizontal trajectory goes, the more surface I offer the wind to slow down/and or push out of direction my line. The further off target my leader unrolls the more time there will be for the wind to push away my fly (before it's "safe" on the surface).
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Thanks bernd! I think i am starting to figure This test out, how to approach it so to say.
The other day i talked to Staffan Dahlbom who lives not to far from here and we Will meet a couple of days in May and do some casting/prepp stuff. Until then i will make lesson plans for each task from What i know now and then make adjustments. Sounds sane
And there is a theory part to right? Is The questions somewhere online?
The other day i talked to Staffan Dahlbom who lives not to far from here and we Will meet a couple of days in May and do some casting/prepp stuff. Until then i will make lesson plans for each task from What i know now and then make adjustments. Sounds sane
And there is a theory part to right? Is The questions somewhere online?