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Post by Paul Arden » Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:08 pm

Hi guys,

I was thinking about Drift and it's become more of a rarity that I teach it, certainly I make less of it than I did say 20 years ago. I wonder if that's because rods are generally stiffer now? Or maybe it's just that I've changed! I know that one problem I have with teaching it, is that it can immediately get bad results and often there are more important things to teach in one lesson.

I do think that it's important to learn, at least for an all-rounded caster.

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Post by Boisker » Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:41 am

Hey Paul
Drift is something I've only really played with and introduced in the last 12 months, but still only for longer casts and generally when I'm practicing... mostly as I rarely need to cast long when fishing.... (when I say long :D I doubt many would consider it long on the forum)
I probably only drift when I am practicing from 60' through to 90'.

At what distance do you start drifting?
Or perhals more interestingly do you see it as being distance related at all?

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Post by Paul Arden » Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:21 am

Hi Matt,

It's not really about distance for me, One major application is widen the available arc for a change in speed (ie casting into a headwind) - but there are many other uses of course.

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Post by Bernd Ziesche » Mon Jun 19, 2017 5:54 am

Hi Paul,
I teach drift in nearly every single and double hand lesson. Not at a large part but for some minutes.
I teach it as a valuable tool for mainly shorter heads in the first place and then show why on longer heads it works better to use a wider arc (for accel.) in order to create the desired (higher) speed.
Maybe you have been using the MED a lot and with that long headed line use drift a lot less but a wider arc without drifting instead?

I have seen Göran Andersson teaching his Andersson style on double hand casting having drift always included. Many students I met who entered his lessons indeed struggled on the drift part. Göran for a long time though started by teaching his students to cast without a fly line on the rod for the first hours. Based on my own experience I prefer to teach casting without drift first and then add drift (in the same lesson) as an option to become advanced. Casting without a fly line never worked for me since most of my students find it kind of boring.
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Post by crunch » Thu Jun 22, 2017 5:27 pm

For a caster who Creeps teaching and learning Drift is very beneficial! I becan Creeping very bad almost ten years ago when I bought heavy Skagit line and watched Skagit casting videos and soon I did Creep when I was Underhanding. IMHO the CL/CM principle in Skagit is very bad!

Drifting is good casting trick to increase distance without changing to heavier setup!

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Post by Paul Arden » Thu Jun 22, 2017 8:43 pm

Hi guys, I think one of the problems I have with teaching drift as a fix to creep is that it's being used as a fix and not a tool. I do the same of course because it is effective. But when the caster is good and you introduce drift you risk the caster losing control - lack of tension. And generally speaking you can only really teach one or three things in a lesson and there are many much more useful things to learn.

Good point on the head length Bernd. With short heads I would most probably be teaching it far more often.

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