rod accuracy

[Bernd Ziesche]

Apparently successful marketing and fun stuff to banter about none-the-less,
Chris

Hi Chris,
reminds me of this fp I wrote some time ago:
http://www.sexyloops.com/2014.shtml?0305


Clearly accuracy isn't a question of the rod but the caster... Don't think there is a rod available (nor will it ever be) making me beat you in accuracy. Only training may move my accuracy closer!?
Cheers
Bernd

[Neil Owens]

...
reminds me of this fp I wrote some time ago:
http://www.sexyloops.com/2014.shtml?0305

This. Exactly

I was in a large,well known fly shop just outside London a while ago

Sales Guy: This is the best recovery of any rod we've ever seen
Me: I have no idea what that means
Sales Guy: Look how it casts!
Me: But you're double hauling and I can't double haul
Sales Guy:But it's fantastic
Me: It's £700!! I'll think about it....

Me... Wanders off to another fly shop to buy a rod I can afford.

and FWIW, I'm currently practising with a Greys GRXi rod I bought a long time ago. It's way more capable than I am. I'm sure many of those who frequent this board are competent enough to exploit the features of high end rods and I hope to be one of those people someday. But I'm not one of them at present and will be staying nearer the broom handle end of the market for a while yet.

[Paul Arden]

It's a bit of a thread diversion here, Neil But much of the difference is in feel (as far as the blanks go anyway!). Performance aside a well-designed rod gives more pleasure and should enhance everyone's casting. Having said that, there are a hell of a lot of cheap rods out there that feel excellent and unfortunately a lot of expensive rods out there that are crap. So you'd be well advised to stay away from the high cost side of the market until you know what you like/love casting

Cheers, Paul

[Lasse Karlsson]

Performance aside a well-designed rod gives more pleasure and should enhance everyone's casting.

Cheers, Paul

How?


Cheers
Lasse

[Bernd Ziesche]

Performance aside a well-designed rod gives more pleasure and should enhance everyone's casting.

Cheers, Paul

How?

I don't think we ever will have any fly rod which satisfies every fly fisherman.

Neil,
Paul made an excellent point about FEEL. Mainly depending on how stiff the rod is you will feel the resistance (of the rod and line) when starting to accellerate and when decelerating it. Different casters prefer different feels. Some like pretty stiff sticks while other like softer ones. Of course the distance you are fishing at as well as the flies to be thrown are having impact here, too.

Besides that I am pretty sure Lasse will agree that the proper caster can adapt well to all rods. That is unless we talk about crappy rods coming along with too much swing weight in the tip section. These rods get less these days. Some old rods really felt very heavy here!
Cheers
Bernd

[Paul Arden]

Performance aside a well-designed rod gives more pleasure and should enhance everyone's casting.

Cheers, Paul

How?


Cheers
Lasse

Tip recovery is an obvious one. Another would be feel (feedback) throughout the casting range/speed variations.

Next week I'm going to buy myself a good quality pool cue. It will still hit the ball, but I'm pretty sure that I'll have amazing control over the white and be able to hide it all around the table. I used to play a lot of table tennis against a very good Australian player. The games very ferocious until one day he brought his professional bat along - I literally could not return a serve. The ball would spin one way or another, clip the side of the table either left or right, and I had no idea which side it was going to go until too late.

Anyway I have lots of stories like that

Cheers,
Paul

[VGB]

Performance aside a well-designed rod gives more pleasure and should enhance everyone's casting.

Cheers, Paul

Sounds like the strap line for a ribbed condom advert

[Lasse Karlsson]

Performance aside a well-designed rod gives more pleasure and should enhance everyone's casting.

Cheers, Paul

How?


Cheers
Lasse

Tip recovery is an obvious one. Another would be feel (feedback) throughout the casting range/speed variations.

Next week I'm going to buy myself a good quality pool cue. It will still hit the ball, but I'm pretty sure that I'll have amazing control over the white and be able to hide it all around the table. I used to play a lot of table tennis against a very good Australian player. The games very ferocious until one day he brought his professional bat along - I literally could not return a serve. The ball would spin one way or another, clip the side of the table either left or right, and I had no idea which side it was going to go until too late.

Anyway I have lots of stories like that

Cheers,
Paul

Piss poor answer

So what you're saying is it doesn't make one a better flyfishers or caster, but the placebo effect of spending alot of money will make you think you are....

Remind me to bring my bat next time so we can play table tennis. That analogy doesn't fly with fishing tackle but I love it when the opponent haven't got the skills to get the ball back

Cheers
Lasse

[Bernd Ziesche]

Tip recovery is an obvious one.

If "tip recovery" is about the tip of the max bended rod moving back into rod straight position, then I think this easy to measure.
A German guy named Ludwig Reim years back made a lot of measurements based on infrared. But he made the mistake not to hang any weight on the tip. He just bended the rod about a certain degree and then let the tip go back. That way his measurements in my point of view did not nearly match casting reality in which we have a line to be pulled behind the tip.
Anyway are you having any datas to prove your point?
Cheers
Bernd