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Paul Arden wrote:Yes it does. I downline for Snakehead shots. Try it!
Do you downline assuming that the line is heavier than what the label says or assuming that the label is correct? Because if the line weight is higher than it says it is then you may not be downlining, you could actually be rightlining. Unless, of course, you are downlining more than the amount that is in error in which case you would actually downlining but not as much as you think you are downlining. If the line is actually .5 higher than the standard and you use a line that is labelled as one less than it actually is then I’m not sure if you are rightlining or downlining, especially if your 10 wt rod is actually a 9.5 because your downlining could actually be uplining.
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Paul Arden wrote:Yes it does. I downline for Snakehead shots. Try it!
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Lasse Karlsson wrote:Slows the rod for short casts :D :D :D :D
Is there an AFTMA standard short cast?
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They have scales for these things Walter. It’s much faster to deliver a line that is bending the rod less. High speed casting such as TLT makes use of this. Of course it’s the opposite of what is often thought (ie faster loading!).

Anyway it’s very easy to test for yourself by making fast PUALD shots. Take a range of lines from 4-8 and use a 6WT rod and work out which lines throw fastest and which slowest.

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Why do you need scales when you can feel a 10% difference?

Are you saying that you get more line speed with a faster rod?
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To confirm! I took a delivery of lines that all felt heavy (slow shots). And they are all heavy. It shouldn’t be necessary of course but that’s how it is nowadays.

You don’t get more line speed with a faster rod if you put a heavier line on it :)

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Did you weigh them or did you give them the 10% test?

Isn’t a fast rod with a heavy line the same thing as a slow rod with a light line?
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I have a set of electronic scales. They’re not expensive. Just arrived in England. Back later...
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Paul Arden wrote:I have a set of electronic scales.
I still don’t understand why you need them if you can tell the weight within 10% by feel.

But maybe you have come up with a new way of deciding the line weight for a rod. Whichever line generates the greatest line speed should be the rating for the rod. That way if line manufacturers monkey with the line weight you will have a legitimate complaint.
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VGB wrote:
Lasse Karlsson wrote:Slows the rod for short casts :D :D :D :D
Is there an AFTMA standard short cast?
Ask Paul, he's the one that made that statement, I was just amused over it :p

I think it's nonsense in the real world, but Paul doesn't...
I think it has alot more to do with line momentum than a slight increase in bend, we are talking about what Graeme said only 5-6 feer more line as an equivalent... But I don't think so highly of burnt plastic anyway ;)

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