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Re: Dangle and cure

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:51 pm
by Paul Arden
It’s very difficult maybe impossible to remove completely. It is possible to aim below the horizontal with the 170 backcast. When dealing with a strong tailwind my first backcast is Belgian before switching to the vertical plane for the next two.

If you can’t throw a low backcast and you want a high forward for distance then it’s next to impossible to remove the dangle. One thing that you can try is drifting up with the rod butt before the beginning of the forward cast. It helps but still won’t completely remove it.

The next option of course is to use a shorter head.

Cheers, Paul

Re: Dangle and cure

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:50 pm
by johnnybg
Sorry guys and girls, the video quality is too poor to anything useful. It's getting a lot worse after posting it to youtube. Don't know what's happening and what encoding they apply :/

Re: Dangle and cure

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:52 pm
by clayed21085
On my longer carries I notice a "ticking" of the fly on the surface and what has helped unless coincidentally, is as already mentioned, simultaneously lifting the hand while opening the wrist as paul teaches drift. Rotary drift has appeared to be more beneficial in my casting developments than simply translating the hand back ( continuation of the stroke) so currently my stroke is stop,open the wrist, and up not back.

Re: Dangle and cure

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:43 am
by johnnybg
clayed21085 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:52 pm
On my longer carries I notice a "ticking" of the fly on the surface and what has helped unless coincidentally, is as already mentioned, simultaneously lifting the hand while opening the wrist as paul teaches drift. Rotary drift has appeared to be more beneficial in my casting developments than simply translating the hand back ( continuation of the stroke) so currently my stroke is stop,open the wrist, and up not back.
Thanks clayed21085, I always drift back and not up. That might be a solution. I'll certainly give it a shot :D

Re: Dangle and cure

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:35 pm
by Paul Arden
It’s difficult. Because if you drift up too much you are in a weaker position later when it comes to delivery. For me it’s always been a bit of a compromise.

I remember Rick talking about a small oval movement he uses for his hand path during the forward stroke, back when I first started learning the 170.

I think that with the stiffer rods we are now using that our casting arc can be slightly narrower - this is going to help. Something else you can play with is some rotation during the slide (forward drift). This will help stop the tip rising when you apply the power - but then you have sacrificed some of your arc..

Cheers, Paul