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Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Davy Sun
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Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Davy Sun » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:36 am

Hi, first of all i hope everybody is well during this hard time. but at least we could stay at garden to finetune our casting :D

i am practising single handed spey in these days and met a problem which cant be solved for long time. i am not sure whether this is the right place to ask for help since i havent found a sub-area for single hannded spey casting. here is the question:

now i could handle 55 feet switch casting without shotting line, with correct setting of anchor and D/V Loop, BUT, each time when the line drop to the water, there is always a "left turn curve" and the front end of main line, everytime!!!
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could anybody give me some clues or advice on that? thanks in advanced.

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Re: Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:44 am

Hi Davy

Sounds like a rebound curve, are you casting with the rod angled out to the side? If yes, try to deliver with a more vertical rod orientation.

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Re: Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Davy Sun » Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:32 am

Lasse Karlsson wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:44 am
Hi Davy

Sounds like a rebound curve, are you casting with the rod angled out to the side? If yes, try to deliver with a more vertical rod orientation.

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Thanks for your reply, Lasse!
i think you are right, i use to tipical "lefty Style" with tilted outside rod, sometimes even 45 degree. i will try your suggestion,
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Re: Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Morsie » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:52 pm

I get the same thing with a 2 hander on the 70ft roll cast, drives me nuts. Will "de-power" some more. Just on the Lefty style thing (my influence for many years) and Spey, the big issue for me was the low hand height, and the absence of lift before coming forward, so point "P" remained static, the anchor too big and the Dloop insufficient. If you're getting plenty of slurp just check that you are in fact circling UP. Putting these issues together was big moment for me.

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Re: Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Geenomad » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:42 pm

Morsie wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:52 pm
If you're getting plenty of slurp just check that you are in fact circling UP. Putting these issues together was big moment for me.
Similar experience for me with single hand spey. Insight wan't available when casting on grass. No slurp.

My self analysis was that a bit more emphasis on lifting up and a bit less on going back produced a more dynamic roll. :cool:

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Re: Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Michal Duzynski » Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:09 am

Hi
 I think this is what you talking about.
  @15min 50 sec of the video- you can see it how it lands. The rod is tilt 45°


   I knew something is not 100%, but did not really worry about it, now when you point it out I might check it out and do what Lasse said.

p.s
  it is all in Polish language, so dont get scared😁
cheers
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Re: Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Lee Cummings » Sat Apr 04, 2020 9:52 am

Rod rebound curve layouts can also come from a vertically orientated casting plane, for a small experiment try making an alternative Wiggle cast with a vertical rod (by shaking the tip straight up and down after the loop is away), the shape you put in the line has to fall somewhere.

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Re: Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Paul Arden » Wed Apr 08, 2020 6:03 am

This is counterflex flex of the rod. If you go vertical you’ll still get it, it will just be a little hump mend :) Basically it’s a wave travelling down the rod leg as a result of the tip travelling from RSP to MCF to RSP2.

There are ways to try to minimise it. Mending immediately after RSP to compensate (good luck with that one), some tackle adjustments. The problem is that Counterflex is a result of the rod unloading and is part and parcel of the cast.

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Re: Q: single handed spey casting - curve on the end the fly line

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Wed Apr 08, 2020 7:55 am

Going more vertical means the line also fall a little longer and the tiny humpmend might get taken out.

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