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Adjusting backcast target for off vertical tracking?

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Re: Adjusting backcast target for off vertical tracking?

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Bernd,

It is entirely possible to have the loop at 90 degrees to the horizontal rod plane.

Whether you want it that way depends on what type of presentation you are trying to get.. Which is "best" I will leave for others to decide.

For me, I find having the fly leg on top allows for the most control and larger, more subtle loops and presentation.

A loop plane around the same as the rod plane allows me the most pointed and fast loops and best for tucking under branches.

A fly leg below can allow for a fly to kick up and stall which can soften the presentation of a heavily weighted crab fly.

They all are possible and useful.
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That’s a good tip there Graeme. I use this:
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Which also includes pull back :)

(For inverted/pendulum loops of course!)
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Hi Bernd

Eeerhmh no, I, like Paul, find that having the loop plane as close to in plane with the rod, feels most efficient. Ie. Horisontal loop with horisontal rod, vertical loop with vertical rod.
But being able to do what you say is something we want too 😉

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I wonder if that’s because of how we apply the force physically – ie straight as opposed to curved – or because of how the rod bends/unbends – ie 2D as opposed to 3D? I suspect it’s more to do with us than the rod.

A good way of learning it would be circles, eights and straights.

Is it everyone else or is just me who can’t sleep in a full moon?

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Trying to sleep in a jungle hammock on a full moon is like trying to sleep with a spotlight in your face.

The funny thing over here is many anglers blame the full moon on poor daytime fishing, saying that the fish feed all night and so are not hungry during the day. My experience in the hammock is that the middle of the night on a full moon is dead silent... no birds, no fish, not even insect sounds! If the fish are feeding they must be doing it on the bottom.

Is it the same over there?
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That’s a great question!

So first up I’ve fished a lot at night for trout. Maybe as much as 1/3rd of my fishing, particularly summer and autumn. And was 100% convinced that no moon, the blackest of nights, was best. Indeed in UK and NZ whenever the moon came up everything stopped feeding. This has happened to me countless times.

And then one time I was camped on the side of Lake Hebgen, Montana, during a full moon and the entire lake was rising! Unfortunately I was a bit pissed by that point having just come back from a bar in West Yellowstone :p But that’s the only example I have ever seen of trout feeding during a Full Moon. I’m sure it must happen there regularly.

Here in the jungle I’ve had very little success fishing at night. Zero Snakehead. No Catfish, which surprises me. I have caught Jungle Perch that were feeding at the surface, under a moon as it happens. Gourami for me are an unknown at night and I plan to spend more time trying for them this year. Small ones do occasionally visit the boat at night.

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Paul Arden wrote: Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:32 am

Is it everyone else or is just me who can’t sleep in a full moon?

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Not just you...

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