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Onehanded spey line for heavy flies

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Onehanded spey line for heavy flies

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Well, I don't know how else to put it but I'm looking for a onehanded spey/triangle taper line that is thick enough in the front taper to turn over heavy sculpin flies, or any heavily weighted fly. A #7 preferably.

Last summer I fished a fairly big river with a Rio Outbound Short #7, and a fly with tungsten head sculpin, and it was very difficult to spey or roll cast with that. I'd like a line with more weight in the back but I'd rather not have to cut the front taper. That particular river has steep banks, gets deep within a few meters and there are trees everywhere. Back casts can rarely be done.

Any suggestions?

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Skagit :)

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Lasse Karlsson wrote:Skagit :)

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Of course. I thought if that before. I just want one line, not a shooting head and a running line. Just a line in a box and a reel to put it on.

Thanks Lasse.
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Rio used to make a skagit wf, not sure if they still do?
*edit* just checked, they don't but have another line that must be suitable, the switch chucker :D

Other than that, there's the Wulff ambush, same thing basicly :) just a little more taper to it than most skagit heads....
Barstool makes one too, the sniper....

A reel you have to buy separately though :p

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Lasse Karlsson wrote:Rio used to make a skagit wf, not sure if they still do?
*edit* just checked, they don't but have another line that must be suitable, the switch chucker :D

Other than that, there's the Wulff ambush, same thing basicly :) just a little more taper to it than most skagit heads....
Barstool makes one too, the sniper....

A reel you have to buy separately though :p

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The switch chucker, I like the sound of that. Forget about dry or die nonsense, this is the chucker! :D

Well yes, there is that about the reel.

Thanks Lasse. Are you going to the fair in Stockholm this year?

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I don't think that the problem is the taper, rather the line weight. Mind you an Outbound short is a virtual 9 I believe? Many of my streamers just don't roll cast on the lines I like to fish. How far do you need to cast?

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Hi Mathias

You're welcome, and it looks like I'll manage to do a fly bye at the fair, if you're going I hope we meet :)

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Paul Arden wrote:I don't think that the problem is the taper, rather the line weight. Mind you an Outbound short is a virtual 9 I believe? Many of my streamers just don't roll cast on the lines I like to fish. How far do you need to cast?

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I used a seven. I didn't say it but the last time I practiced a self taught double spey which didn't work out too well so that's probably the main reason. Since the flies are so heavy I do think that anything helps and a little more weight close to the tip of the rod won't do any harm.

I managed to cast about 50 feet but would have loved to cast at least 70. The river is at least 250 feet across so there is no point in trying to cast too far.

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Lasse Karlsson wrote:Hi Mathias

You're welcome, and it looks like I'll manage to do a fly bye at the fair, if you're going I hope we meet :)

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I hope we do. I should have an MCI question or two ready if that occurs.

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Hi M. If necessary, you can cast a double spey 50-70 ft, and more, with 3,5 mm tungsten on the size 8 hook, with 4-weight Ambush TT line (190 gr), with 8 ft Extra fast sinking Poly and 3ft tippet. On some fast 4-weight rod. S. One 9,6 ft, for example, but many others as well. With 250-275 grain (and that's about 7/8 weight SH rod standard) with OPST commando or Rio Trout Max, with 5-10 ft of T-8 tip you can cast more than you can effectively fish. Thats skagit. If you have a problem with this, consider that something is wrong with your casting technique. With OPST or Trout Max a good instructor can fix you in half an hour. Just a little bit more with Ambush TT. Cheers, alp
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