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Hi guys
There was few discussions here about what fly fishing really is, but tell me what do you think about DREGGING?
Is it fly fishing for you droping(not casting) heavy set up of the side of the boat?
Regardless what you think, do some of you have some tips to make it more efficient?
My set up is as follows
10wt rod, 6' 24lb leader, 28' of T17 conected to 50lb Rio slickshooter running line( i need something that sink faster) and on the end big fly with a ball sinker.
Tell me about your dregging experience.
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Dredging? Some of the guys here do it, me included sometimes, but the fly is rarely dropped over the edge to sink.

We normally cast ahead of the drift to allow the fly to drop as we approach it. Some of the guys in our club do it in water up to 30m deep, casting nearly the whole line ahead of them and feeding out the rest.

I normally fish in 10m of water, so I don't need the full sink. In fact, I normally use a floating line with a fly/sinker setup like you've shown. As the fly sinks, it drags the line down with it. When I strip, the fly will rise through the water column and sink when I pause. It gets down to about 6m and fish come from below to hit it.

If I want a sinking line, it's normally one of the integrated head lines. T17 has advantages though, especially in reef country. It's much cheaper to replace.

Keeping in contact with the fly is the problem though. Luckily for me, the snapper I chase are not shy about hitting the fly and often hook themselves as they run with the fly.

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I've heard of people dredging for tarpon in the Florida Keys.
There they use a fast sinking line with big flycast as far as you cast strip off lots more line and let the whole thing sink until it is on the bottom then slow stip.
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cheers
so this is how we doing here as well.
Just wonder what flies would be good and have a nice movement while pumping from the bottom.
When I open my fly box the clousers dont convince me, I reckon it should be something that move nicely while on the drop- kind of wiggle tail.
Greame can you send me some pictures that you use for snapper?
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G'day Mike,

This is my favourite for snapper, fished with a 000 or 00 ball sinker in the loop knot:

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Edit: I see the forum trims the right hand side. Go to this link to see the whole fly.

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If you want a fly with a lot of movement for deep dredging then look up the half and half clouser deceiver. You can wrap the shank with lead wire for extra weight. I will definitely be tying more before my next Exmouth trip as I took 6 last trip and came home with 1 (sharks smashed a few hooked fish).
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Welcome to the Board, Spencer! :cool:

It fits my definition of fly fishing, Mike, but I find it numbskullingly boring. I was inspired to try lead line shooting heads for big Browns on Ardleigh 25 years ago having read Steve Parton's book. I would actually recommend this book for what you are trying - "Boat fishing for trout" (I think). This fishing was taken to a high level and called Northampton Style.

Maybe with the sounders we have nowadays it would be more interesting and ok, it's interesting to have the greater depth available, but if it really requires lots of action to keep it interesting and I've never had lots of action. Having said this, had I caught a 15lb brown I might have a different perspective :p

I'm sure it's more interesting fishing around Bombies and between gaps in reefs. I have decided to chase big Browns one day/week this summer so no doubt I'll get to revise my opinion :)

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Spencer.K wrote:If you want a fly with a lot of movement for deep dredging then look up the half and half clouser deceiver. ...
Yeah, welcome to the forum Spence!

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Just wonder what flies would be good and have a nice movement while pumping from the bottom.
Hard to beat "Hareline" bunny strips for the ass end.

The waters I "dredge' for tarpon are between 4 and 9 feet deep using a sink tip Rio quickshooter - no weights. About half the bites are surface bites. I use a spun deer fur fly with a bunny tail, light flash, 4/0 to 5/0 light wire hook, so the fly is neutral or slightly floating. Either casting to boils or blind casting and swinging along channel edges late afternoon into the night.

They are fished very, very slowly at the end of the swing and all the way to the re-cast.

It is a very effective way to catch them, and easy enough that anglers who are not very good casters can jump big fish.

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The movement on this fly is amazing.
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