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why is a Loop called a Loop and where do you measure its tig

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why is a Loop called a Loop and where do you measure its tig

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Hi all,

Does anyone in here know why we call the things we throw LOOPS?

i ask this because per definition a loop has to be something closed, which is never happening in Flycasting Loops.

And the other question would be when talking about tight loops where to measure the tightness of a loop. V loops for example dont carry the same tightness all the way....

just thinking about this, any ideas?

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I have no idea why, but I can't think of a better name for it. Have you got one in mind?

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hi Graeme, no i don"t. That would also be pure heresy i guess

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Looking at definitions, it makes sense to look deep, and there's several explanations for the definition that isn't a closed loop...

Have no idea who came up with using it in flyfishing, but looking at the definition of a loop, its not hard to see that someone early on would have used it to describe the shape we see after we have accelerated a piece of string.

And since both the definitions and flyfishing are several hundred years old, we need someone with a good library to look :D

Does size matter?

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1919, A discourse on trout angling and tackle, E.C. Powell (rodmaker)

The word loop is likely in use for more than a century.

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Taught by my father, who was likely self taught, I learned the concepts of buckles and bights.

Loop formation was getting the line to buckle.

Then, the goal was to shape and maintain the bight.

Likely, this terminology has a basis in sailing.

I never heard of a loop until after college and thought it was a less accurate term.
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Post by Bernd Ziesche »

Hi everyone.
If the term "loop" is in use for a century, then I am sure, it would take at least 5 centuries to replace that term. So I'll have no chance to see that happening anyway. :)
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I measure it at its widest point from top to bottom. However others like to measure it closer to the nose, which makes it tighter of course!

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Post by Michael Rebholz »

Hi everyone,

Thanks for all your replies

thanks merlin for this source

yes bernd i agree on this one and there s also no reason to change the name of it yet word travels faster today than 100 years ago and that is very cool. in a way - or is isnt it?

Mangrove coockoo,
that is very interseting what u say there:
Connection to sailing - can you please explain what you mean by that and where the connection is?
getting the line to buckle!!! i love this man, btw "boucle" in french is loop like the tour de france ( le grand boucle, originally ending where it started, in paris i suppose)
I d really like to hear more about tht from you, thanks. And i dont understand what bight is, but i will look it up.

you re all very helpfull here and measuring it like paul sais at the max width makes probably sense.....but also a lot of tight loops look very wide (if they were measured) . MAking it look tighter seems to be a big part of it anyway i have the impression.

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Post by Lasse Karlsson »

Bight is a loop of rope :D

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