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Torque Twist
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Torque Twist
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Yes it could very well be the Micro Wrist, mini Thrust, Powersnap phenomenon. Or it could be shocking the rod in a form of Pull-Back.
Ashly is down in KL at the moment but when she is back I will shoot some slow motion video with the Instructor rod. I meant to do it last week but I forgot the white rod!
I’m going to put a beer on it against Lasse that we see the S-shape of a forced unloading rod. Preferably a Bosnian Beer and not a Swedish Beer if I lose
Why? You may ask. I think the results are so dramatic that the line’s behaviour seems much more like pull-back (reversed torque) than a Powersnap. I’ve also seen the characteristic S-shape occur on a Stopless 170 backcast, where I know that I’m not using Pull-back to force the unload. So I think with this Torque Twist we are shocking the rod.
But it’s all beer and bubbles. I’ll make sure street casting is the first thing I do when Ashly returns. I’m very curious now! Jack sounds like quite a character by the way
Cheers, Paul
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Yes it could very well be the Micro Wrist, mini Thrust, Powersnap phenomenon. Or it could be shocking the rod in a form of Pull-Back.
Ashly is down in KL at the moment but when she is back I will shoot some slow motion video with the Instructor rod. I meant to do it last week but I forgot the white rod!
I’m going to put a beer on it against Lasse that we see the S-shape of a forced unloading rod. Preferably a Bosnian Beer and not a Swedish Beer if I lose
Why? You may ask. I think the results are so dramatic that the line’s behaviour seems much more like pull-back (reversed torque) than a Powersnap. I’ve also seen the characteristic S-shape occur on a Stopless 170 backcast, where I know that I’m not using Pull-back to force the unload. So I think with this Torque Twist we are shocking the rod.
But it’s all beer and bubbles. I’ll make sure street casting is the first thing I do when Ashly returns. I’m very curious now! Jack sounds like quite a character by the way
Cheers, Paul
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Re: Torque Twist
I'll put a beer against you that the s-shape isn't proof of a forces unloading of the rodPaul Arden wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:53 am
I’m going to put a beer on it against Lasse that we see the S-shape of a forced unloading rod. Preferably a Bosnian Beer and not a Swedish Beer if I lose
Cheers, Paul
Didn't you use to have a page on the tourque twist? I used to teach it for advanced rollcasting in like 2004, and I sure didn't come up with the concept myself!
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Probably. I can’t be expected to remember everything, Lasse. The number of times I’ve discovered something that I had previous discovered and subsequently forgotten is... well I’ve forgotten exactly how often this has happened. But quite a lot
But that’s not this point This is a different application being used for speed shots. It also extends distance for the PUALD shooting shot.
It’s not just a small difference. In this Snakehead game it opens doors.
Actually the twist I do with the delivery on dynamic rolls I think is a force application. But with the Snakehead shot, I think it’s pull-back. With the roll cast I am more inclined to rotate the elbow through the stroke. With Snakehead this would cause a tracking problem and I am twisting in place of the stop.
Same thing but different! Video is the answer
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But that’s not this point This is a different application being used for speed shots. It also extends distance for the PUALD shooting shot.
It’s not just a small difference. In this Snakehead game it opens doors.
Actually the twist I do with the delivery on dynamic rolls I think is a force application. But with the Snakehead shot, I think it’s pull-back. With the roll cast I am more inclined to rotate the elbow through the stroke. With Snakehead this would cause a tracking problem and I am twisting in place of the stop.
Same thing but different! Video is the answer
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Same but same, increasing tipspeed and subsequently line velocity
Looking forward to the videos!
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Looking forward to the videos!
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Re: Torque Twist
What is this torque twist?
Is this rotating the rod around its axis or thrusting?
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Is this rotating the rod around its axis or thrusting?
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Rotating the rod around its axis, sometimes while thrusting
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Re: Torque Twist
Menno in Holland also told me he does this. He made the comparison with the grooves in a gun.Lasse Karlsson wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:59 am Rotating the rod around its axis, sometimes while thrusting
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Not sure how he exactly explained it, but I didn't buy it. I might have been wrong
You guys believe in this concept? How does it help?
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It’s a form of forced unload.
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And how does that help?
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Well if it is a form of forced unload, which is not certain yet, then it will result in a higher tip speed. And before you ask yes I have tried it in overhead distance but I can’t get the tip to track straight!
When Ash is back I’ll shoot some video.
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When Ash is back I’ll shoot some video.
Cheers, Paul