Lasse,Lasse Karlsson wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 5:58 pm None of those factors you mention impact when to release unless one fucked up acceleration of the line prior, and sometimes its good to fuck up, but not there.
Most relaxed fishing casts that are shot are the ones where I release at the same point as I do with a short heavy shootinghead. Been fishing tackle similar to the us anglers distance for more than 3 decades now. And na, thats not super short, thats bog standard shootinghead length in the fishing world.
I have not mentioned any issues with that cast, only pointed out that due to your fingers being far appart on your hauling hand, you have released far earlier, than the stated.
I just cautioned Phil that using two screen shots of different casts taken from slightly different angles and with the unknown of how far out the rod is angled, makes it hard to compare tippaths, perspective matters a ton.
I am not sure how much experience you have with casting the T42/T38 and Anglers Fly tournament events in different wind conditions, but I can tell you, overhang and the timing of the release is what you have to play with to get the loop to neither turn over too early nor too late, and it is much easier to play with the overhang than the release timing. The Anglers fly line is for a tournament distance casting line painfully short. Just 9 meters (yes, I know that’s the length of many commercially made fishing shooting heads). The old grey T42 lines were the same as the Anglers fly line but around 17 meters (I just measured one of mine)—the newer T38 are slightly shorter. Casting the Anglers Fly line is tricky. It tends to turn over way to early so that all casts land in heap at the same length. There’s a few tricks to get it to fly better, the main ones being to use as much overhang you can and the second is to release super early. As Chris said, compared to T42 and T38, it should feel like you are releasing too early. For T42/38 at least (but also ST27, and S55) the wind conditions play a big role. I learned that the hard way back in the late 70s (79?) during a Nordic Championship in Denmark. The tail wind was much stronger and was coming in flatter with more carry than what we were used to. As a result, all of my cast up to the very last one, turned over way to early and landed in a heap. On the last one, I lost hold of the holding line (0.45mm mono) and ended up holding way into the 0.26mm mono shooting line. That one did not turnover to early and I ended up winning that championship. The situation was similar at the 79 WC in Sweden. I did increase my holding line a lot so that I could have enough overhang, but that was still not enough when I casted the combined fly accuracy and distance event (with a much earlier version of the T38 line). The line landed in a heap at around 66m (or 64m, I do not recall precisely). In comparison Leif Stavmo won the single hand distance event under the same conditions with a similar line, or the T42 version, with a cast of 70m, the longest ever at that time.
