Carrying a gun while fishing...

[Rickard]

The problem is Vicente, is that it goes the other way too. If in another life we were both muggers and we thought there was a possibility that those we were going to mug had a gun down their pants, then we would want a gun too. What could just be losing a fly box, or our dignity, turns into a gunfight a OK Corral.

Me personally, I rather live in a world of unarmed muggers… which I do.

I’ve never had a gun pulled on me. Never a knife either. I’ve been in a few pub fights. Never my fault of course, but sometimes it happens. There are people in this world who lose control after a few drinks. Give them access to a gun? Give access to people who are not quite all together in their heads, access to a gun? Give people who are just downright evil.. access to a gun? There is no security in that world.

If you stick me in a fucked up world like that, then I don’t want a gun; I want a tank! But that’s not the world I either live in or want to live in. I want to live in a world where the worst thing I’ll get when a night out goes wrong is a black eye. Arm the muggees and you arm the muggers.

Cheers, Paul

I think this is the smart view.
Access to guns causes gun violence. More harm are caused by guns than stopped by guns. Otherwise USA would be the safest and friendliest place in the world.

[Vicente G]

I would like to live in a world like that too, maybe I'm extra tough on that subject because I live in South America, here lowlifes can (and they have done it multiple times in the past, it's actually quite disheartening) severely wound or even shoot you, just because you looked at them in a bad way, they have robbed and killed grandmas trying to take out their retirement pension from the bank, killed a defenceless elderly for just 250 dollars man, I've seen on the news that people get mugged for 20 dollars, that's wild, and sometimes when you don't have nothing to give them they just straight stab you or shoot just because, that's why here sometimes we are extra tough on them, they deserve no mercy, lots of people have suffered because of them

[Vicente G]

Maybe we should arm the fish.

I really hope someday we can arm the fish so they can protect themselves from poachers LOL

[Rickard]

I would like to live in a world like that too, maybe I'm extra tough on that subject because I live in South America, here lowlifes can (and they have done it multiple times in the past, it's actually quite disheartening) severely wound or even shoot you, just because you looked at them in a bad way, they have robbed and killed grandmas trying to take out their retirement pension from the bank, killed a defenceless elderly for just 250 dollars man, I've seen on the news that people get mugged for 20 dollars, that's wild, and sometimes when you don't have nothing to give them they just straight stab you or shoot just because, that's why here sometimes we are extra tough on them, they deserve no mercy, lots of people have suffered because of them

Are the people there born violent robbers or do people end up there because of other reasons?
Slabbing guns on a broken society won’t fix the underlying problems.

[Rickard]

I would like to live in a world like that too, maybe I'm extra tough on that subject because I live in South America, here lowlifes can (and they have done it multiple times in the past, it's actually quite disheartening) severely wound or even shoot you, just because you looked at them in a bad way, they have robbed and killed grandmas trying to take out their retirement pension from the bank, killed a defenceless elderly for just 250 dollars man, I've seen on the news that people get mugged for 20 dollars, that's wild, and sometimes when you don't have nothing to give them they just straight stab you or shoot just because, that's why here sometimes we are extra tough on them, they deserve no mercy, lots of people have suffered because of them

Like if you meet someone desperate enough to pull a gun and rob someone for $20 and you start to pull a gun, what will happen? Probably you escalate the situation so much that the other person will use its gun. Are you ready to kill someone to avoid getting robbed?

[Mangrove Cuckoo]

Let me see if I can get this right? I'm not sure of the exact minor points, but this is how I understand things are in Florida now.

It used to be that to carry a handgun in Florida it had to be concealed and you needed to have a "concealed carry permit". The same system is common in many other US states. Getting that permit included taking a firearms safety class, a background check to make sure you are not a felon, and getting finger-printed. I took the class, out of curiosity, but did not go through with the rest. My 6 3/4" barrel .22 Ruger is not something you can conceal anyway. (I got it for shooting Burmese Pythons that are a serious invasive species threat to the Everglades.)

The idiots in the Florida legislature did away with the permit idea a few years back. Now anyone can "carry", but the gun must still be concealed - so as not to panic others. So no more classes or finger printing ect. required.

Carrying a gun that everyone can see is called "open carry", and that may actually be acceptable in some other US states. Or at least it is often a topic for discussion.

But, guess what? As I understand it ,there is an exception in the new law- if you are "going fishing" in Florida - you are allowed to "open carry"!???

What the hell has going fishing have to do with it?

To see how perfect this new law is - some private citizen is walking around a northern city with an assault rifle... and a fishing rod. So, he is within the law.

Un... f***ing believable!

[Paul Arden]

I honestly cannot understand how it’s possible to have a society where a significant part of the population think it’s a good idea that the general public can own assault rifles It is absolutely ludicrous to just about everyone else and I’m sure it must be to plenty of Americans too.

I like the fact that most policemen in the UK are unarmed. And to be an armed policemen is a very specialist job. I have a friend who is one, or was, now he runs a pub.

When I was 18 I got a shotgun certificate. I needed somewhere I could shoot, a bolted gun cabinet and a thorough background check. I borrowed a friend’s shotgun who wanted to sell, found a rabbit, missed, and found the baby rabbit cowering in a hole shivering with fear. I looked at him and he looked at me, and I thought this is not what I want to do, and off he hopped.

We live in a pretty messed up world right now. I don’t think more guns is the solution.

Cheers, Paul