The Carry Reconstructed

[Lasse Karlsson]

Hi Mark

Have a look at the last cast in this clip:



Cheers
Lasse

[Paul Arden]

I would argue that the 170 is the way to throw distance when fishing. Trying to compact all that speed into a truncated stroke is a recipe for tails. Anyway I've only been teaching it to fishers and not comp casters for a few years. I do believe that there is great benefit to be had in learning a concise stroke before opening up however. There is a series of stepping stones and pull-back and stopless are somewhere at the top.

Cheers Paul

[Lasse Karlsson]

I do believe that there is great benefit to be had in learning a concise stroke before opening up however. There is a series of stepping stones and pull-back and stopless are somewhere at the top.

Cheers Paul

Agree

Crawl, walk, run, sprint and get the fick out of there sort of stepping stones

Cheers
Lasse

[Paul Arden]

It's strange, I wonder why we can't easily teach the 170 to someone who hasn't learned a repetitive compact stroke? Teaching stopless is a great way of solving consistent tailers (I'm sure you know). I use it a lot to fix timing/fluidity issues. It's going to take a long time for that to filter into casting associations. Would have said ten years but it might take longer now!

Cheers, Paul

[Lasse Karlsson]

Hi Paul

I'm not sure we'll see that in our lifetime

And yes, getting rid of the stop as it's known helps with several issues.

Cheers
Lasse

[Geenomad]

Hi Mark

Have a look at the last cast in this clip:

Hi Lasse
Need more help as I suspect I am missing something important. It's very neat, slightly canted away from the body and to me impressionistically there was something slightly Italian about it. Obviously not 170. Nice pointy loop but the shot angle versus casting angle made it difficult to see how big the bus was.

Cheers
Mark

[Geenomad]

I would argue that the 170 is the way to throw distance when fishing.

I do believe that there is great benefit to be had in learning a concise stroke before opening up however. There is a series of stepping stones and pull-back and stopless are somewhere at the top.

Hi Paul
Wondering how fishing accuracy goes with the 170, especially as effort and distance increase.

I am also wondering why the concise stroke needs to come first, with or without an emphasis on stopping (which has to happen anyway or my arm would halfway across our galaxy by now and still stretching.) None of us, of course, can erase the steps by which we got to wherever we are - we all learned the concise stroke first and I still find useful to revisit it.

Cheers
Mark

[Lasse Karlsson]

Hi Mark

The final delivery is taken straight of the 170, there's no need for a big stroke during falsecasting of a 10 meter head unless we have a gale force backwind so only the final one needs the long stroke and flopping at the end. The stop you see happens because my wrist doesn't rotate further down at that angle, and I'm not gunning for anything more than a smooth fishing cast.

Compare the delivery with the delivery in this clip :


And take away what would make me fall down a slippery stone or overboard in a boat

Italian?

Cheers
Lasse

[John Finn]

Does 170 mean SLP goes out the window ?....................John

[Lasse Karlsson]

Does 170 mean SLP goes out the window ?....................John

Depends on how you define SLP as a construct, if it's taken literally, it never happens and is the holy grail we seek but will never touch. If it's as a approximate for what we want when we positively accelerate the line, it fits when it's done right, and goes out the window as with any other technique messed up

Cheers
Lasse