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Tailing loops page

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:02 pm
by Paul Arden
Wow. I've just watched this. Technically I think this page should be right at - or very near - the very end. Anyway I shall be making it live this weekend.

FWIW it *was* shot at the very end, after the initial makings. You can tell because summer has turned to Autumn :p Consequently I let go a little bit :cool:

Apologies in advance for those who are expecting something less technical. Less technical is coming with presentation casts :)

Cheers, Paul

Tailing loops page

Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 5:21 pm
by Lasse Karlsson
Sounds cool, it's the one from the app right?

Cheers
Lasse

Tailing loops page

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:48 am
by Paul Arden
Yep.

Tailing loops page

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:28 am
by Paul Arden

Tailing loops page

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:28 am
by Lasse Karlsson
Cool, it's the one part I haven't bought :D
May I disagree with stuff, or would you rather leave that behind here :p

And the first 20 seconds is the best explanation I've heard so far!

Cheers
Lasse

Tailing loops page

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:43 am
by Paul Arden
Of course you can disagree! I wouldn't be happy if you didn't :p

Tailing loops page

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:59 am
by Lasse Karlsson
Well then you asked for it :D

Less than 180 degrees doesnt cause a tail.
Too much force at the wrong place does.
Finishing the haul too early, thats not what causes the tail in your clip, and it rarely happens, hitting the haul with too much force at the wrong time does cause a tail,, and is much more common than finishing the haul too early.

Have to watch again for more :p

Cheers
Lasse

Tailing loops page

Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:51 pm
by Paul Arden
Yep I don't think less than 180 is a tail either. For me that's a Dangling End. However it depends on your definitions. And we don't have one of Tailing Loop.

And yes I agree. I haven't watched the clip too closely but it's rare that tailing loop demonstrations match their cause. And are usually multiple causes. But it looks good :p

I do see tails caused by the haul when first learning and I as wrote I've seen it once with an experienced caster (in 20 years!).

Cheers, Paul

Tailing loops page

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:56 pm
by Lasse Karlsson
Hey Man

Better reshoot then :D

And I did say I see tails from hauling, just not from finishing the haul early ;)

Definition of a tailing loop, I thought there where several of them, all talking about concave paths and amounts of crossings and stuff....

I like your first 20 seconds, and that definition.

A tailing loop is a transverse wave put in the flyleg by the caster.

Cheers
Lasse

Tailing loops page

Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:35 pm
by Boisker
Really interesting Paul...
i’d Never thought of, or realised that the curve casts at the end of the video could be classed as tailing loops... makes my head hurt slightly even thinking of it, I’ve been unknowingly practicing tailing loops :D