Why is this happening???

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Why is this happening???

Post Number:#1  Postby Michal Duzynski » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:46 am

Hi
Can somebody explain to me what is happening here.
I cast ST27G head, happy with setting up the loop, then delivery cast(starts ok) and then land in a pile of more spaghetti then my italian wife can cook.
I play with heads( short, medium, long), and the ratio of a good cast is maybe 2 out of 10.
I got exited as I have 2 good cast with straight layout and then shit happens like on a attached pic.
I google staff, I study( about what Im doing wrong), and then I come accros a slow mo video of Sakkari casting st27g head.
Seeing how the loop travels( fucking pointy as) I stop the video and strat getting frustrated again about my own casting. Today though I watched till the end and screenshot the final turnover( both loops)- they look as shity as mine ha ha,ha.
It makes me wonder why( knowing quality of a great caster Sakke is)?
With a lot of tail wind it will go far( even in my casting), and I dont know what magic the wind does that it will land somehow straight.

Same with Italians- awesome loops during fals casting and a pile of shit on delivery....

Just looking for some key points here...
cheers mike
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Post Number:#2  Postby Michal Duzynski » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:47 am

Check this photo
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Post Number:#3  Postby Michal Duzynski » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:50 am

ok a bit closer
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Post Number:#4  Postby Lasse Karlsson » Wed Jul 18, 2018 6:31 am

Straight tracking, smooth acceleration, right amount of overhang, early release, and making sure the line velocity is high at release.

First picture, isn't that James?

Thin runningline accentuates mistakes.

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Post Number:#5  Postby Michal Duzynski » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:36 am

Hi Lasse
Yes it is James, I just put this pic in to show how Sakkari's and the caster next to him loops started.
This early release is still driving me nuts...
mike
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Post Number:#6  Postby Lasse Karlsson » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:58 pm

Ah, ok :D

Where did you find Sakke's footage, I only have Nicklas Ericssons from that competition, as I recall, it was wet and no wind at all, small mistakes get blown up then :666:

Just throw it like you would throw the full line, only falsecasting should differ..

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Post Number:#7  Postby Stefano De Martini » Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:44 pm

Hi Michal, i hope that you feel comforted by the fact that we both are in the same boat :D
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Post Number:#8  Postby Michal Duzynski » Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:40 pm

Hi
here is link to the slo mo video
https://youtu.be/tWhmV8YzaXg

Ive asked, because I thought that Im missing, not seeing some key point.
Now knowing there is few out there ( thanks Stefano) with as lovely turn over as mine makes me feel less weight on my shoulders ha ha
Back to casting.
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Post Number:#9  Postby James9118 » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:48 am

I've seen a lot of casts (mine and other peoples) seemingly crumple for no apparent good reason - it's particularly evident in shooting head events. At times it looks to me that very small ripples in the fly-leg are magnified as the cast travels down the casting court - once they grow to a sufficient size then the cast stalls. I believe this is particularly common in casts which have 'ticked' - perhaps these have more initial ripples? I've also heard people talk of elastic effects in the fly line - I can perhaps imagine that some sort of 'spring-back' could also cause some small ripples, especially if the power application was abrupt.

So I go for smooth, progressive power and I try not to tick (I don't always achieve this however :laugh: )

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Post Number:#10  Postby Michal Duzynski » Sat Jul 21, 2018 8:44 pm

thank you James
...so there is another thing to look for, will see
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