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Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:42 am
by Lou Bruno
Do we know what effect saltwater might have on EXPOSED super glue...if any?
Lou

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:15 pm
by Lasse Karlsson
Really depends on the superglue? Most gets brittle in water, some don't.

Cheers
Lasse

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:46 pm
by Lou Bruno
So, if it could become brittle, there's a possibility that the glue could break. Then lose its adhesiveness.

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 4:48 pm
by Lou Bruno
So, best to layer the glue with thread wraps...or something else. Depending on application I guess.
Lou

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:55 am
by Paul Arden
Superglue comes unstuck for me in water. This is because it sets through evaporation. I use it in poppers, when leading flies etc but it won’t stick eyes and it will eventually fall apart.

I know people who swear by UV glues. They don’t work well for me either. It depends on the application but epoxy may be best. It’s a pain to use.

What’s it for, Lou?

Cheers, Paul

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 8:17 am
by James9118
Paul Arden wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:55 am Superglue comes unstuck for me in water. This is because it sets through evaporation.

Cheers, Paul
Hi Paul,

'Super' glue is a brand name for a cyanoacrylate adhesive. These cure due to the presence of water (moisture in the air) causing the polymerisation chain reaction.

I use superglue in my saltwater flies - firstly to secure the initial wrapping of thread, then I add some around the dumbbell eyes. I don't worry too much about deterioration because all the fish I cast will mess it up before the glue fails :D

James

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:26 am
by Paul Arden
Ah! Thanks for the correction! This I didn’t know :) :)

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:28 am
by Lou Bruno
Paul Arden wrote: Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:55 am Superglue comes unstuck for me in water. This is because it sets through evaporation. I use it in poppers, when leading flies etc but it won’t stick eyes and it will eventually fall apart.

I know people who swear by UV glues. They don’t work well for me either. It depends on the application but epoxy may be best. It’s a pain to use.

What’s it for, Lou?

Cheers, Paul
Paul
I've been trying simple tarpon flies that use rabbit strips. I super glue the strips. Without giving a list of all my flies, I've been trying different saltwater flies. Different sizes, material, natural and synthetic also. I use super glue, gel on most of my flies along with UV resin on some.
Lou

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 12:30 am
by Lou Bruno
James
So is using super glue a waste?
Any alternative?
Loi

Re: Super glue and saltwater

Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 3:02 am
by Paul Arden
Hi Lou,
I think for rabbit strips just tie it Matuka style. I sometimes put a small dollop of UV glue at the tail connection to the hook bend to stop tail wrap but there are other ways of avoiding it. Eg a loop of nylon that the strip rests on or is even needled through. (I can’t remember where I learned that - Matt Klara I think). I too like rabbit strips although in the salt, however I’ve often found that the teeth bite through them!

Cheers, Paul