What is repetition?

[Paul Arden]

There is a huge trap here in excluding the very people we want to include. We’ve all seen that happen. It’s not that the information is unpalatable or wrong, it’s that it’s presented in a way that most people don’t understand it.

That’s the problem with academic papers, for example. They’re not written for general consumption or to educate. I’ve been editing my wife’s academic papers these past two years and it annoys me when she quotes stuff that I don’t understand and need to in order to edit. And when I ask her what it means she says she doesn’t know either!!

A new member here commented privately to me that he couldn’t post until he understood all the jargon and acronyms on the Board. We have fallen into that same trap! (We need to stop doing that).

Cheers, Paul

[Stoatstail50]

Interesting.

Nick Winkelman recommended a book list, none of them are particularly burdened with jargon, his in particular explains the concepts very clearly. Recommending a book isn’t a trap as far as I know, so for anyone who wants a good grasp of the theory…have a read

In my personal experience, a very common reaction is that it’s largely unnecessary to understand any of it, rather than it being difficult to understand. That’s because most of what we already do, works..kinda…and we probably don’t want to imagine a world where we’re not seen as magicians.

[Paul Arden]

I suspect that is largely a defensive reaction, Mark. Sometimes it’s not what we communicate but how we communicate

This stuff is absolutely fascinating to anyone who teaches movement. It’s at the root of what we do. If a coach is not completely fascinated by it, then it’s being put in a way that he either doesn’t understand, doesn’t want to understand or feels threatened by.

I think we know a few people who have run into this problem before in our world.

Cheers, Paul

[Stoatstail50]

Yup..

[Paul Arden]

I think that Nick could write an excellent how-to-teach sports movement mini guidebook using the info in his current book. It’s all there in the chapter summaries. Add a few flycasting examples and pass that onto CIs. That would go a long way to improve the world.

The closest most of us will come is in CI or MCI mentoring and I think that’s quite different to teaching recreational anglers.

It is! The CI training I find to be quite restrictive. I’ve done fair bit of that online too. It doesn’t take 12 sessions though. 6 should be adequate. There is a certain irony that I cover a wider spectrum of casts and techniques with recreational anglers than I do with most CIs. The irony being that quite a few CI candidates take the assessments to improve their casting technique! Anyway it’s all good.

I stopped offering 6 lessons earlier in the year, just to concentrate on 12. If someone asked for CI training I would do it but I won’t do 6 lessons otherwise now. The course structure is actually 10 lessons. And then we have two sessions at the end for whatever they want, by which point it’s like having their own practise session with a coach. Sometimes they rebook. One particular guy I’ve been teaching for 2.5 years and we’ve had over 30 hours. We get together approximately once per month now.

It’s been an eye-opener to say the least. It’s one good thing that came out of Covid!

Cheers, Paul

[VGB]

I’m not sure if Mark or I was useless but it took a lot more than 6 sessions to get me up to speed. Maybe he just has high standards

[Paul Arden]

It will vary of course and it also depends on the starting point. That’s not including theory which I do separately via email.

[VGB]

An interesting dit that majors on learning over performance:

https://www.scotthyoung.com/blog/2022/1 ... obal-en-GB

[Paul Arden]

I think I’d fear the man who has practised 10,000 kicks 10,000 times!

[VGB]

I think I’d fear the man who has practised 10,000 kicks 10,000 times!

Right up until he was in a boxing match. In fishing terms, it’s the difference between being a one trick pony and having a full range of control to produce casts that allow you to present the fly in a number of ways.