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The Japanese casting sport federation, uploaded a cool old clip on youtube yesterday.
Cool to see how casting was when I was 1 :blush:

Enjoy




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Thanks Lasse. This one was fun to watch. :)
Many familiar faces. I started in the spring of 74, knew all on the Norwegian team at this championship, one of who was my mentor when I got into this. As you may notice, quite a few was of the participants were only their mid-teens in 73, including on the Norwegian team; I am still in contact with some of them. Fun to see Steve at such a young age. His distance casting stroke was already then as I remember it from when I first saw him, which was several years after this one. I am not sure, but was there Joan W. casting fly accuracy in that segment. :glare:

This was the last ICSF WC on water. After this everything was moved on land. We did cast the accuracy events on water for club-level competitions for some years after this. Casting the ICSF fly distance events on water back then was extremely physically challenging. The lines were as heavy as today I believe, super-fast sinking, and the rods both super stiff and heavy. This was before we got graphite rods. I saw a few bamboo rods (for accuracy I assume, but still…), the rest was heavy and stiff fiberglass rods. I suspect the two-handed fly distance rod that some of the Norwegian casters used was the club rod. If so, then I have practiced and competed with it. It was brutal for a teenager :ninja: (Incidentally, I just this fall talked about that rod and that championship with one of the youngest on the 1973 Norwegian team).

John, did you participate in the 73 Scarborough WC?

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NM wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:19 pm I am not sure, but was there Joan W. casting fly accuracy in that segment. :glare:


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Hi Nils

The resident movement expert says definetly, and I say so too :blush: Amazing to see the movement quality being there from back then is so similar to how they still move, both Joan and Steve :)

Thanks for the information, always cool to get some history. Casting complelty died in Denmark about the same time as I picked up a flyrod, and it's like it never happened here, sadly.

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It's indeed said that it died out in Denmark. I have found memories from one or two Nordic Championships Denmark in the late 70s, including as a first year senior. I got lucky in the single hand fly distance event. :blush:

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Lasse Karlsson wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:00 pm
NM wrote: Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:19 pm I am not sure, but was there Joan W. casting fly accuracy in that segment. :glare:


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Hi Nils

The resident movement expert says definetly, and I say so too :blush: Amazing to see the movement quality being there from back then is so similar to how they still move, both Joan and Steve :)

Thanks for the information, always cool to get some history. Casting complelty died in Denmark about the same time as I picked up a flyrod, and it's like it never happened here, sadly.

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Hi Nils and Lasse,

There is a shot of a lady casting who does look very similar to Joan Wulff. That lady was a US caster named Anne Strobel. Joan Wulff was not there. It was my first WC. Some super casters there, Ulf Janson, Rune Nysveen, Olle Soderblom, to name just a few. It was a great tournament but unfortunately was the first of a few years when many European casting nations cast under the CIPS banner in separate events, not what was the ICF. Fortunately the world saw sense a few years after. It was few years later that I first saw casters from Germany and Eastern European nations. Wow, was that an eye opener!

I have a heap of super 8 movies from 1973 and other venues, including some of the great Jon Tarantino. Steve's stroke is a mirror of Jon's stroke. I must get them converted to DVD this year.

Both fly and plug casting look great on water, plug accuracy especially. My memory fails me but there was a time when we cast distance fly on water and any tick on the water at the back was a no score. That really focused the mind on the backcast.

To your well made point in many posts, Steve used a fibreglass rod in that event for distance. It was a relatively soft rod compared to some rods others were using.

His stroke hasn't change much over the decades has it?

On a very sad note, Helmut Hochwartner passed away last week. Helmut was a multiple world champion fly and plug caster and has a great coach and administrator of both Austrian casting but world casting for decades. My most sincere condolences to Helmut's family and his friends around the world.

John
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Thanks I really enjoyed that. I also thought that was Joan. Must have been hard to measure distance with a lead line over water. Now you see it…

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John Waters wrote: Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:48 am

Hi Nils and Lasse,

There is a shot of a lady casting who does look very similar to Joan Wulff. That lady was a US caster named Anne Strobel. Joan Wulff was not there. It was my first WC.

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Hi John

Thanks for the clarification, I'm impressed that the movements look so alike :)

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I was going by the hair style.
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I can't imagine what it's like having to drag a T120 line up from the lake bed :oh: I imagine the markers had to work quick too, unless the lake wasn't deep enough for the fluff to be dragged under.
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