Triangle method limitations

[Phil Blackmar]

This may have been covered already, I couldn’t find it if it had been, however.

I have spent the better part of the past week exploring the triangle method. What are the downsides to using it all the time for a good caster?

Using a 7 wt rod, I varied fly size and weight and worked In all planes at all distances. This does NOT include COMPETITION distance. I found the method very simple and easy to reproduce good loops. Really tight loops we easily achievable with a slight adjustment at the finish, such as: butt lift, hard stop, pull buck and push. Even without these variations loop sizes were very manageable and fishable.

Throwing a pretty big streamer for a 7wt and no wind, I was able to reach 110 ft without any body rotation or dropping the foot back. My focus was to keep the reel rotating in one place as best as possible.

What am I missing? Why not use this method all the time? What are the shortcomings? With translation removed, timing seems easier.

Thanks
Phil

[Stoatstail50]

Funnily enough I use it as a means to add translation rather than remove it.

There are very few limitations that I’ve found with it and it’s very easy to develop.

Why not use this method all the time?

Good question

[Phil Blackmar]

Did you catch a bonefish?

[Paul Arden]

Because it throws a horizontal backcast loop close to the ground and there might be nettles or bears back there It’s also not the preferred way to throw unless you’re throwing frisbees or skimming pebbles. Arguably it’s very “Lefty-ish” with its advantages and disadvantages. Straight tracking is incredibly complicated and in my view very much inferior.

Cheers, Paul

[VGB]

Straight tracking is incredibly complicated and in my view very much inferior.

Are you a beginner caster needing some lessons

Incredibly useful cast for someone who fishes small streams or needs to put a fly under a bush, but I haven't caught a bear yet. Not found any disadvantages yet, it has never failed me yet.

Regards

Vince

[Stoatstail50]

Did you catch a bonefish?

I didn’t…It’s blowing a hoolie atm and I couldn’t see a cruise ship on the flats let alone a bone

[Stoatstail50]

Because it throws a horizontal backcast loop close to the ground and there might be nettles or bears back there It’s also not the preferred way to throw unless you’re throwing frisbees or skimming pebbles. Arguably it’s very “Lefty-ish” with its advantages and disadvantages. Straight tracking is incredibly complicated and in my view very much inferior.

Cheers, Paul

That’s just really sad.

[Phil Blackmar]

Because it throws a horizontal backcast loop close to the ground and there might be nettles or bears back there It’s also not the preferred way to throw unless you’re throwing frisbees or skimming pebbles. Arguably it’s very “Lefty-ish” with its advantages and disadvantages. Straight tracking is incredibly complicated and in my view very much inferior.

Cheers, Paul

Wow. Per your video on the cast, Shift the plane up and shift the triangle as necessary. Shorter stroke with fewer moving parts. Seems simpler. It surprised me, I’ll admit. I’m headed home. Will attempt a video for your revulsion.

[Paul Arden]

If you lift the plane to the vertical then it’s just flycasting! The triangle method for me is a method of watching loops using side casting. Usually ground to ground.

The advantages are we can see the loops. The disadvantage is we move the rod using external/internal rotation from the shoulder as opposed to flexion/extension. Both have their uses of course but for me I would much prefer the latter.

Cheers, Paul

[Paul Arden]

Are you a beginner caster needing some lessons

Always!

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Doesn’t look too bad until you add the rod.
For every change in length the backcast target moves position.