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Layback
Layback
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Re: Layback
“Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius — and a lot of courage — to move in the opposite direction.” — Ernst F. Schumacher
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Re: Layback
https://www.eclipsewellnessnova.com/pos ... ve-laybackA common mistake that people make is thinking that layback is solely due to the shoulder. There are other joints that contribute to full range of motion, particularly the scapula and thoracic spine.
It looks as though you need multiple internal cues to produce a successful outcome, possibly unique to each individual.
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Re: Layback
Thanks Vince, it's all part of the kinetic chain. That's why, "A common mistake that people make is thinking that layback is solely due to the shoulder. There are other joints that contribute to full range of motion, particularly the scapula and thoracic spine." is correct.
In fact, if you go back over my early posts in the other thread, I have specifically referred to both external shoulder rotation AND the thoracic spine when discussing that objective. I did not refer to scapular loading, or that other important contributor to layback which the quote does not mention, separation of the key proximal joints used in casting, in those recent posts as I had mentioned both earlier.
As to multiple internal cues, no, you only need one.
John
In fact, if you go back over my early posts in the other thread, I have specifically referred to both external shoulder rotation AND the thoracic spine when discussing that objective. I did not refer to scapular loading, or that other important contributor to layback which the quote does not mention, separation of the key proximal joints used in casting, in those recent posts as I had mentioned both earlier.
As to multiple internal cues, no, you only need one.
John
Re: Layback
Which one do you use John?
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Re: Layback
Excellent question Vince, read my posts again and see one.
John
John
Re: Layback
I’ll try a sceance, I might get a straight answer for onceJohn Waters wrote: ↑Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:24 pm Excellent question Vince, read my posts again and see one.
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Re: Layback
When you do Vince, channel "stretch".
John
John
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Yep, feeling better already
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Re: Layback
Excellent, I’m so happy for you.