The arm is almost straight, but the wrist has not been fully turned over at RSP1.Bernd Ziesche wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:24 am It looks to me like your rod hand arm already was straight at RSP1, but you rotated your torso and the shoulder came further forward. Thus the rod hand came forward as much as the shoulder did?
Yes, and that is what we are trying to do, what we feel we do, and why we don’t try to stop the rod. Trying to stop the rod at RSP1 is a recipe for failure and would severely reduce max trod tip speed at line launce. You don’t aim to stop your hand at the point where you release the ball or a javelin when throwing those, do you? So why would you do something different when distance fly casting?Bernd Ziesche wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:24 am Wouldn't you want to use as much distance for acceleration until RSP1 as possible?
There’s a lot of interesting issues to research further when it comes to the position of MAV and the front-of-shoulder MAV to RSP1 movement. The “stop” is not one of them, it would be interesting to understand better:
- Why MAV is happening where it is happening and both why it is so early relative to what we try to do, and importantly why it happens so late and with the arm so much in front of the shoulder compared to other throwing sports.
- What the optimal MAV to RSP1 movement pattern is. Should we push the hand forward and up as most of us do, or just pull it down and release as Henry and some others do?
This cast was from the fall of 2022, so after just a few months of serious practice after my 40 year break from tournament casting (and then only T38) and 20 year break from all fly casting, so not it was far from brilliant.Bernd Ziesche wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:24 am Of course such slomos show what in normal speed looks just total perfect and still is brilliant casting.
You cannot from the video see when the line is released and the haul ends. The measurement of the haul is just based on tracing the rod guide and the haul hand and includes the movement of the haul hand after the line has been released. The optimal timing of the line release depends…. It could be that it should have been earlier in this cast, but you can not determine that without looking at what happens to the loop as it unrolls.Bernd Ziesche wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2024 8:24 am Lasse recommended to have the line go early. I agree but are wondering what you hauling longer does to cf. Could be slightly reduced this way.