Amplification of error.

[VGB]

Hi Bernd

I'm sorry to hear about the loss of your friends

That same page can be a certain avg. distance for smooth casts. It can be a proper double hauling, getting rid of a tailing issue, positioning the rotation more efficient or many more. It can also be to get rid of pain coming in too often. Or being able to expand fishing time......It was a tough situation having had a group of six along the Swedish coast, all much older than me. Boy, did I learn about different desires in that week!

In my opinion, all of these boil down to control of movement, often trading speed of movement for accuracy of movement in a wide variety of fishing environments. This is identical to what Mark has just written:

a wider range of controlled motion is exactly what is needed to improve someone’s chances of getting a fish.

regards

Vince

[Bernd Ziesche]

Vince,


By the way I ve seen aoe being used in demos a lot. Mel Krieger indeed liked to use it. A demo is teaching too of course. Anyway I yet never had any instructor ask me to increase something he then wanted me to get rid of within a lesson (as far as I remember). Having had many lessons that sais something, I think.
Cheers
B

[Stoatstail50]

Mel used a form of “old way new way”.

If you haven’t experience AoE it’s most likely because your instructors have never heard of it.

[Bernd Ziesche]

Mel used a form of “old way new way”.

If you haven’t experience AoE it’s most likely because your instructors have never heard of it.

Well, they used it for demoing stuff (to make me understand), but didnt have me running thru it myself.

[Stoatstail50]

A demo is teaching too of course.

A show demo is the least effective way of teaching. An instructor demoing a motion without getting you to then perform it is quite likely to be relatively ineffective too because that's just like a personalised show demo .

The point here is that the caster themselves actively controls, and changes, the motion. If I use this I'm never, at any point going to refer to the motion as an "error" in the first place, merely as a mechanism to generate a particular output.

Of the two papers posted on here this one is the most tricky to read, the other one on old way new way is more digestible and probably explains better why these processes work and when you might use them.

[VGB]

I like to wrap it into the self discovery piece to let them enjoy themselves. Circles, straights and eights, writing your name with the line are all casting faults technically but these exercises engender confidence and extend control.

Regards

Vince

[easterncaster]

'... und now we think in circles'

We could change the Loop size task on the CI exam into a AoE instruction task!

[VGB]

We could change the Loop size task on the CI exam into a AoE instruction task!

I had a mentor that used to do that, he’s not allowed out in public anymore

[Stoatstail50]

The loop size task is a model old way new way.

I use switching from wide to narrow as a basic loop control drill early in teaching beginners. Not at 40’ though.

[Stoatstail50]

…and in some mentoring.