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The future???
Just for fun.
BTW-JC and I played on tour at the same time. This video is actually accurate in that it details some aspects of a famous instruction book called The Golf Machine by Homer Kelly.
BTW-JC and I played on tour at the same time. This video is actually accurate in that it details some aspects of a famous instruction book called The Golf Machine by Homer Kelly.
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Re: The future???
People want more than just secrets Phil, they want the secret, secret secrets so secret and powerful they’re protected by the Ba Ka Rod spirits of the Atun Gleam who hiss forever of sinews and synapses in the deepest darkest chambers of the casting pharaohs…
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Re: The future???
Phil, just out of interest. I’ll pitch (no pun intended) a similar question to you that I have asked Bernd on the “Movement Skills Overview” thread. Do you consider golf to be a simple or a complex movement skill. If so why and does that impact how you coach?
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Vince
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Re: The future???
Vince,
I am not Phil, but if golf is similiuar to ff.... That "trick shot" was done by the newest and probably best club available. Magic club can make the shot all on his own and the best is, that the ball can only fly dead straight!
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Hi Vince-
I consider golf very complex which makes me want to simplify things as much as possible. I do this by basing everything on my version of golf's essentials;
Path direction
Face orientation at impact
Sequence of body motion (two turns and a swoosh)
These are an intent rather than a result. This, in and of itself, is a change for many
Then add rhythm timing and balance.
Try to stick to one thing at a time. Use all ques (visual, internal, external, etc) to help the student develop personal and spacial awareness.
I ask the student lots of questions with the goal of leading them to a conclusion which I have in mind. Often, my goal will change depending on the students answers. A shared path of discovery is what I like to call the journey.
I like to include small challenges which are attainable to encourage a good attitude and feeling of accomplishment
We talk about how to practice to speed the improvement on the course.
Technical aspects relate back to path, face and sequence or timing. This allows the swing to fit the player rather than changing things to make the swing air player look better.
There is way more, Cliff notes version.
Cheers
Phil
I consider golf very complex which makes me want to simplify things as much as possible. I do this by basing everything on my version of golf's essentials;
Path direction
Face orientation at impact
Sequence of body motion (two turns and a swoosh)
These are an intent rather than a result. This, in and of itself, is a change for many
Then add rhythm timing and balance.
Try to stick to one thing at a time. Use all ques (visual, internal, external, etc) to help the student develop personal and spacial awareness.
I ask the student lots of questions with the goal of leading them to a conclusion which I have in mind. Often, my goal will change depending on the students answers. A shared path of discovery is what I like to call the journey.
I like to include small challenges which are attainable to encourage a good attitude and feeling of accomplishment
We talk about how to practice to speed the improvement on the course.
Technical aspects relate back to path, face and sequence or timing. This allows the swing to fit the player rather than changing things to make the swing air player look better.
There is way more, Cliff notes version.
Cheers
Phil
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Nice one Mark. Hogan was famous for his secret.Stoatstail50 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:17 pm People want more than just secrets Phil, they want the secret, secret secrets so secret and powerful they’re protected by the Ba Ka Rod spirits of the Atun Gleam who hiss forever of sinews and synapses in the deepest darkest chambers of the casting pharaohs…
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I very much like how you put your objective and strategy here, Phil. Sounds familiar to me.Phil Blackmar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:14 pm I consider golf very complex which makes me want to simplify things as much as possible. I do this by basing everything on my version of golf's essentials;
Path direction
Face orientation at impact
Sequence of body motion (two turns and a swoosh)
That aside is there a sport, that you consider not to be complex?
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Hi BerndBernd Ziesche wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:10 pmVince,
I am not Phil, but if golf is similiuar to ff.... That "trick shot" was done by the newest and probably best club available. Magic club can make the shot all on his own and the best is, that the ball can only fly dead straight!
Cheers
B
You are so so right. Here is an example...... They've been in business for many years....
FF following the same path with faster and faster rods and heavier lines...
Cheers
Phil
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Hi Phil
I did chuckle at the video, I’ve been in casting presentations like that
I agree with you that golf could be largely considered a complex skill. I probably mentioned that my second time playing golf which was the day after the first time I picked up a club for the first time, I played a work tournament on a local links course, coming 18th out of 32 regular players. Retrospectively, I think I went through a process of chunking, leveraging off about 11 years of school and club (grass) hockey. I could hit a ball with a stick which just goes to show a complex skill can be simpler
Regards
Vince
I did chuckle at the video, I’ve been in casting presentations like that
I agree with you that golf could be largely considered a complex skill. I probably mentioned that my second time playing golf which was the day after the first time I picked up a club for the first time, I played a work tournament on a local links course, coming 18th out of 32 regular players. Retrospectively, I think I went through a process of chunking, leveraging off about 11 years of school and club (grass) hockey. I could hit a ball with a stick which just goes to show a complex skill can be simpler
Regards
Vince
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I guess the more moving parts the more complex. Never really thought about it....In that sense, nearly all sports are complex if they require a sequence of motion where timing, accuracy and or speed is important. How about Darts? Of course, Darts may not meet the standard required for some to call it athletic??? LolBernd Ziesche wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:21 pmI very much like how you put your objective and strategy here, Phil. Sounds familiar to me.Phil Blackmar wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 7:14 pm I consider golf very complex which makes me want to simplify things as much as possible. I do this by basing everything on my version of golf's essentials;
Path direction
Face orientation at impact
Sequence of body motion (two turns and a swoosh)
That aside is there a sport, that you consider not to be complex?
Regards
B
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Phil