I think if there's one cast that is widely mis-understood in terms of its definition then it's the '170'. I don't think I've ever read a definitive description of what this cast is. As such, I think there's a lot of confusion surrounding this cast. In fact I'd go as far to say as very, very few people actually perform '170's (in my definition of what a '170' is) versus how many claim to be proficient in it. It my mind the '170' is not simply a cast with a (very) wide casting arc - it's much more subtle than that. So what actually defines a '170'? Can it be done from either stance? Where's the separation from OSD to '170'? What's the advantage of a '170' over the OSD etc?
Cheers, James
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Define the '170'
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Re: Define the '170'
Hi James,
I describe it as “two back-to-back stopless delivery casts”. By “delivery” I mean the stopless backcast in this case, is the same movement as if you were to actually deliver the fly in that direction.
I think the main advantage is the higher backcast speed of the 170 compared to OSD, which in turn allows for a longer carry and better casting into the wind. There may be some advantages on the forward cast too with body momentum and a rolling start.
The advantages of stopless is higher line speed, pure and simple. It’s also a handy way of getting the rod tip well below the Flight of a Clouser.
Cheers, Paul
I describe it as “two back-to-back stopless delivery casts”. By “delivery” I mean the stopless backcast in this case, is the same movement as if you were to actually deliver the fly in that direction.
I think the main advantage is the higher backcast speed of the 170 compared to OSD, which in turn allows for a longer carry and better casting into the wind. There may be some advantages on the forward cast too with body momentum and a rolling start.
The advantages of stopless is higher line speed, pure and simple. It’s also a handy way of getting the rod tip well below the Flight of a Clouser.
Cheers, Paul