Page 18 of 18

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:31 pm
by nicholasfmoore
:laugh:

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:49 pm
by VGB
Too early in the season to get a proper rise :D

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:58 pm
by Bernd Ziesche
Paul Arden wrote: ↑Wed Mar 06, 2024 12:47 pm However yes I do believe it costs distance.
What you think is the cause for loosing distance, when the rod-leg points off to the side due to moving the rod in after the shoot is launched?

About the wind I have a different view. Add a lot of tail wind and you see very few, who can handle the wind in their back cast. That is, because their line does not travel close enough to straight and unrolling gets slown too much to then have a perfect start for the fc.
I think close to straight is always important in heavy wind, in no wind and everything inbetween.

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:49 am
by Paul Arden
Because a loop that is not vertically stacked has tracking errors resulting from gravity. A tail wind will assist the loop unrolling on the forward cast. If the wind is flat calm then these deviations will remain.

Not being able to carry the head with a tailwind is a separate issue.

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:29 am
by Bernd Ziesche
Paul Arden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:49 am Because a loop that is not vertically stacked has tracking errors resulting from gravity.
Paul,
Having watched a fair number of distance experts casting the MED 5 none of them had the fly-leg and rod-leg both moving in vertical plane. There was always significant deviation. Also none had the rod moved in vertical plane, but slightly off to the side.
I don't understand this to be a tracking error, nore would I blame gravity to be the cause for any casting error.

That aside, I thought tracking was defined about tip path upto loop formation, not post it. πŸ€”

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:05 am
by Paul Arden
As I wrote previously the biomechanics of moving the rod, as well as the haul, need both to be considered. It’s a compromise of line speed against loop orientation.
That aside, I thought tracking was defined about tip path upto loop formation, not post it.
One thing at a time.

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:41 am
by VGB
Paul Arden wrote: ↑Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:05 am One thing at a time.
Rocky Balboa?