HI John,
Could you supply a video of a cast where the elbow goes behind that line across the shoulders?
Wouldn't that really hurt?
I watched the videos above, and they are all non "US" casters except Steve, and I don't see that in any. To me, while their elbow may open behind the body it still looks to be in line with their shoulders.
I ask because that line is one of the things I use as a cue: I try to rotate my torso early and concentrate on keeping both my elbows in line with my shoulders following that. Doing so was a very large deviation from my long time "elbow out" style.
Thanks!
Gary
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Hi GaryMangrove Cuckoo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:46 pm For me, one of a few of the basic distinctions between OSD and 170 is bracing the rod butt against the forearm. I don't do it on OSD but do on 170.
But, Lasse, above in the video, it looks like you brace on OSD also???
(I'll try that!. Bracing is a very key ingredient, for me, when fishing with rods 10 and up. The big weight shift I use in 170 is impractical on a skiff... and completely out of the question when standing in a canoe. So that part of 170 is for fun casting only.)
I also noticed that you strip the line in between casts by placing it in your rod hand and pulling it tightly. Is that just because the line needed stretching or cleaning?
I'm skinny fat and weak, bracing just happens
The weight shift is not something I consider key with 170, I want to be able to utilise the technique standing on a slippery rock in the baltic , so for me it's all about that flopping and the ultimate key, timing of the haul.
And the retrieve is the vector retrieve, I lock the line at my rodhand, and use my line hand as a pulley twice the amount of line retrieved in one go, saves the onlooker watching fishing intakes on casting clips, I myself find that a bit boring
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Hi Gary,Mangrove Cuckoo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2024 11:24 am HI John,
Could you supply a video of a cast where the elbow goes behind that line across the shoulders?
Wouldn't that really hurt?
I watched the videos above, and they are all non "US" casters except Steve, and I don't see that in any. To me, while their elbow may open behind the body it still looks to be in line with their shoulders.
I ask because that line is one of the things I use as a cue: I try to rotate my torso early and concentrate on keeping both my elbows in line with my shoulders following that. Doing so was a very large deviation from my long time "elbow out" style.
Thanks!
Gary
I have not seen a video of a caster who moves the elbow behind the shoulder line. It certainly would hurt. My reference to US casters was about how they position their elbow in front of the shoulder and by extension (no pun intended), the role elbow extension plays in their performance. Chris Korich's elbow positioning is an interesting example and compare that to other throwing sports.
Your comment about how you have changed your stroke is an essential of distance casting.
John
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Milestone today gentleman!! Yesterday and this morning I was blind casting an area where migrating Tarpon travel with my 11wt Asquith paired with SA Infinity. Yesterday I was hitting 100’ when my timing was on. When I muffed it I threw 75-85. This morning that extended 5-7 feet with a couple 110’ that’s the running line connection to my backing just off the reel with 10’ of leader. I attribute this success to all of you especially Paul without whom I’d still be struggling to hit 70’ not to mention a VERY Sore shoulder.
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That’s excellent Vinny! But we are working on curve casts
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Yep!!
Worked on the curve and horizontal to vertical loop casts in the afternoon with my 6wt. Very cool stuff Pauly!!
I did find it amazingly less difficult to keep line in the air with the 6 after my workout with the 11 in fact when transitioning from OSD to 170 I think on one or two of my casts both B/F I saw the makings of the “dolphin nose”.
However, I think something went awry with those casts because the loop formed, although much more pronounced than ever before was further into the rod leg than I’m used to seeing. Like the fly leg was longer then usual
Worked on the curve and horizontal to vertical loop casts in the afternoon with my 6wt. Very cool stuff Pauly!!
I did find it amazingly less difficult to keep line in the air with the 6 after my workout with the 11 in fact when transitioning from OSD to 170 I think on one or two of my casts both B/F I saw the makings of the “dolphin nose”.
However, I think something went awry with those casts because the loop formed, although much more pronounced than ever before was further into the rod leg than I’m used to seeing. Like the fly leg was longer then usual
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That sounds great, Vinny! Keep pushing the window. Congratulations on your moment today. I’ve always thought that fly fishing presents us with life moments and that’s why we do it. These moments are indelibly printed in our minds.
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