You (or we) are loop centric due to conditioning. That's all. There's a historical source from 1885, that says different. Christal clear and undeniable. The loop is the path of the rod tip and NOT the line picture. And that is a fact and consistent. The loop concept as it is is illogical and incorre...

Yo its great that we already agree that its more a wavy thing that it is a loopy thing... Lol

I am waiting for conditions to shoot footage here. Too Irish atm.

Cheers and TL
Michael

@john How do 6oy know that the wavespey exercise doesn't change anything on your casting if u haven't tried it? The concept of the wave has far more substance than the loop. I repeat myself too, and I won't get tired: The loop is not there. It's a made up thing to sell tackle and it sets a lot of pe...

@john Have u played with the wavespey yet with rod in hand? Paying attention in this wave context does indeed change the way you move the rod. Have u tried to make a 15 mtr rollcast that is inaudible? The thinking of casting as vibrations is new (and very old) and got lost due to the concept of the ...

This mentioning if the curve I ve seen somewhere else, I think it was Alexander grant. I totally disagree with u saying its just a word. 1. It's a word that is pure dogma and doesn't suit its own definition. Loops cannot unroll. 2. In Any case its a nearly 150 year old coarse generalisation from peo...

Yes merlin,
Thank you. An excellent post, indeed. I will do my best to explain how I think about it and why it will be helpful.
I am super impressed.

Cheers and TL

@merlin Is that all it says? That's hard to believe. How did the transfer from 1885 s technical tackle définition (where there is no word about casting) make it in the line picture till 1937? If so it's just indeed a generalisation. A thoughtless one. Saying that when did science learn about wave ph...

@merlin Awesome and what does it say on this book? Can you tell me that pls? Or copy the relevant passages? Why are u telling me to pause? I think it's only getting interesting now.... Plus we are going somewhere... We discuss and we think. And I know exactly where I m going. Now pls look into these...

@merlin It works with any rod and line and its easier with longer rods and heavier lines. What I meant by watching it was to go out by yourself and establish the wave patterns for yourself. Only because its called a loop doesn't mean it makes sense. The world was supposed to be flat only a couple hu...

How can it be a loop if ir is a wave? Since when are waves loops? How can a loop ever even be open? That source from 1975 is irrelevant for what we are doing here, lasso. It only repeats. Like us today. This is deffo not the source who mentions the loop for the first time in flycasting. This must be...