The issue…in this thread anyway…is one of lesson sequencing. I think a caster benefits most at the beginning by being able to see their loops front and back. This is, in my view, the best way for them to learn. Once they have learned the basic techniques needed to form a small variety of loops then...

Most people don’t need an instruction not to watch. I find that people who are used to watching their back loops will usually lose control over their loops when they don’t watch them. That’s been normal with everyone I’ve encountered. If you are teaching shots I’m surprised you haven’t encountered ...

I agree that we need to help students learn appropriate movement skills sufficient to meet the objective safely and efficiently.

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Vince

No problem John, it’s easy to talk across each other in forums in a way that you wouldn’t in real life. I’ll usually look or ask about the set up first. Normally the leaders are too short but like Paul, I’ll get them to throw at a couple of targets before I make a change because they may not have th...

Hi John

I also presume the focus of instruction is the specific skills needed to perform that technique.

In my experience p, a typical student who is not a novice will give you an objective such as “I want to get better at dry fly”.

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Vince

Torsten wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 5:40 pm I'd try too be good @ the basic overhead cast.

Same question to you Torsten. What constitutes a basic overhead cast and how would you teach it?

Vince

Rickard wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 7:11 pm When the basics are in place it is easy to add extras upon that.

Can’t agree more but I wouldn’t put someone on a putting green and make them do it one handed while they learn to putt. What would you say are the basics of making a fishing cast?

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Vince

If is not accurate the caster will not hit the intended target in the forward cast. A quick glance around any fishery will see loads of anglers casting with wide open back loops, usually followed by a tailing forward cast and they will not be sorting it out. Many have been casting like that for dec...

Rickard wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 6:35 pm I would give a brief explanation that straight tracking is a foundation then some drill that forces accuracy. Hoops or Joan Wulffs picking leaves for example.

I do something similar myself, I don’t make long winded explanations. How do you enforce accuracy on the back cast?

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Vince

Torsten wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 5:40 pm Well I've heard these silly arguments often enough, casting sport is not like fishing blah, blah .. mostly by people not involved into the sport.

Nobody has ever told me not to haul a delivery stroke while I’ve been fishing. If they did I would probably have ignored them