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by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Apr 13, 2021 3:36 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

Love the simulations Torsten! Me too. I now know how casting looks like when standing above a black hole coming along with HUGE gravity. Sorry Torsten, don't take it personal. ;) I have to admit to have seen too many fly casting models not matching my casting reality. Yet Cameras seem to have found...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Apr 13, 2021 11:40 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

Bernd, Aitor's video proof shows a tailing loop............is that what he was demonstrating? Hi Peter, Well, I don't see anything, but a nice presentation on the delivery cast here (after a huge change of direction). Regards Bernd https://vimeo.com/533914686 https://www.first-cast.de/WebPics/180-t...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:08 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

I've rotated the straight acceleration segment slightly upward. Hi Torsten, According to your modelling you believe, that violating the 180 concept just a bit (not much compared to the video proof Aitor delivered) and by smooth accel., results in A) the fly line just outside the tip hardly followin...
by Bernd Ziesche
Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:52 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

For me it is most likely a wave, it's put there by the rodtip (aka. the casters actions) and accentuated with sag. Minimize the mostion that puts it there and minmize sag, and it all but disappears. 1. At what section of the stroke and in which stroke (same cast as the dangle or the pre cast) does ...
by Bernd Ziesche
Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:58 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

For me it is most likely a wave, it's put there by the rodtip (aka. the casters actions) and accentuated with sag. Minimize the mostion that puts it there and minmize sag, and it all but disappears. Hi Lasse, Some questions: :p :pirate: 1. At what section of the stroke and in which stroke (same cas...
by Bernd Ziesche
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:09 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

By the way, I would please still like to see footage of ANY casts where the post-rollout AND post-RSP line layout is close to straight and 180 degrees to the cast trajectory. Not breaking 180 appears to be a rare exception. Hi Dirk, 180 concept for me is: The unrolled fly line as it is in the momen...
by Bernd Ziesche
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:03 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

Incidentally the Svirgolato Curve Cast which is often described as a tailing loop cast is for me predominantly made by angle change. Maybe therefore it’s a dangling end cast :) Hi Paul, Keeping the bc and the fc along a straight line (not changing direction) is quite a proper exercise for the Svirg...
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:49 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

I think if Aitor doubles the line length (I thought he had done a longer carry? - as has Lasse above), I think he’ll just get a bigger dangle, not tail. That's most probably theoretically correct as far as I understand it. But lengthen the line even more easily would cause compensation ending up in...
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:43 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

Nice video, Lasse.
All I see is no tailings by violating the 180 concept...

Looking forward to Paul showing one without pulling the tip back, without uneven force spolication but by violating 180 only. :666:
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:46 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

I am fine with how you put it, Will. Now we have to convice Paul (going to be tough), that violating 180 cannot be a cause for a tailing loop as Aitor has proven all over again. Paul, force application isn't the cause for a tailing loop nor is it for a proper loop. Smooth (proper) force application ...

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