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by Bernd Ziesche
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:09 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

By the way, I would please still like to see footage of ANY casts where the post-rollout AND post-RSP line layout is close to straight and 180 degrees to the cast trajectory. Not breaking 180 appears to be a rare exception. Hi Dirk, 180 concept for me is: The unrolled fly line as it is in the momen...
by Bernd Ziesche
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:03 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

Incidentally the Svirgolato Curve Cast which is often described as a tailing loop cast is for me predominantly made by angle change. Maybe therefore it’s a dangling end cast :) Hi Paul, Keeping the bc and the fc along a straight line (not changing direction) is quite a proper exercise for the Svirg...
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:49 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

I think if Aitor doubles the line length (I thought he had done a longer carry? - as has Lasse above), I think he’ll just get a bigger dangle, not tail. That's most probably theoretically correct as far as I understand it. But lengthen the line even more easily would cause compensation ending up in...
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:43 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

Nice video, Lasse.
All I see is no tailings by violating the 180 concept...

Looking forward to Paul showing one without pulling the tip back, without uneven force spolication but by violating 180 only. :666:
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 4:46 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

I am fine with how you put it, Will. Now we have to convice Paul (going to be tough), that violating 180 cannot be a cause for a tailing loop as Aitor has proven all over again. Paul, force application isn't the cause for a tailing loop nor is it for a proper loop. Smooth (proper) force application ...
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:39 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

Flycasting18.jpg
Paul,
will the next forward cast (caster in green = Ruari) give a) a tailing loop and/or b) a dangling end?
Cheers
Bernd
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:09 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

No way I am going to buy that one, mate. :???: The first 2 when caused by too uneven force application causing the rod tip to dip and rise during the stroke are tailing loops, yes. The third one also can be a tailing loop (2 morphing into 3, yes). A dangling end does not start at tip position and th...
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:56 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

I hope the current fp puts everything clear! :pirate: :ninja: :p
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:03 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

Do you agree that a dangling end is a transverse wave in the fly leg? No, I don't. I understand the dangling end to be an S shape usually. Would at least be some sort of a double wave then. Since a transverse wave has the amplitude precisely perpendicular to it's moving direction, I don't think thi...
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:32 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 14701

Re: 180 "tails".

Paul Arden wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:41 am
You can’t possibly think that the wave in the fly leg was out there by pull-back Bernd.
My point was, why you pull back, if you want to proof, that violating 180 and only this causes a tailing loop. No need for adding pull back then.
;)

P.s.: Nice art :D

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