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by Bernd Ziesche
Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:30 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

That same thing can of course results in what we describe as a dangling end. But I’m quite sure it can also look like a tail. Paul, In that drawing you have a) a convex tip path, significant convex in the starting section and final section (almost horiuontal launxh direction) and b) a horizontally ...
by Bernd Ziesche
Thu Apr 01, 2021 5:09 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

Paul,
Can you shape a tailing loop on a broomstick?
Of course you can change trajectories and thus violate whatever 180 concept here.
Cheers
B
P.s.: Can you explain your cause of violating 180 and how it creates tailing loops please?
by Bernd Ziesche
Thu Apr 01, 2021 10:31 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

Hi Peter, I am on my small smartphone, but from what I see in a quick view: You aim high in the back cast in medium line speed. Before you start the next forward cast, you pause little extra to allow the unrolled line to extra fall. I don't see much (if any) of violating the 180 concept (if seen in ...
by Bernd Ziesche
Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:31 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

Cool, Im looking forward to you guys showing it in some high speed footage 😊 Hi Lasse, I predict that's not going to happen. I don't believe in tailing loops only done by mismatching to align the unrolled back cast being inline with launch direction for the next cast. If that would be a possible ca...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:30 pm
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

Peter, I would want to check how much line sack there was for the unrolled cast, when the nr. 2 loop happens. I could think this to be part of the cause either. When my unrolled line is as straight as possible (let's say horizontally) and I aim relatively high in the next cast (smooth accel.) no pro...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:09 am
Forum: Flycasting
Topic: 180 "tails".
Replies: 178
Views: 9130

Re: 180 "tails".

but its not what we see in intermediates. IMG_1386 (1).jpg Hi Peter, I don't see my students shaping tailing loops (first one in your drawing) by violating the 180 concept (for me: positioning launch direction for the next cast as good along a straight line with the current unrolled cast as possibl...
by Bernd Ziesche
Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:35 pm
Forum: Flycasting Physics
Topic: Question about tails
Replies: 68
Views: 5681

Re: Question about tails

Drafting table I like! Easy understandable... :yeahhh:
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:02 am
Forum: Flycasting Physics
Topic: Question about tails
Replies: 68
Views: 5681

Re: Question about tails

... and doesn't that dip in the rod plane create a curious curve cast like the Svirgolato (or however is it spelled)??? Svirgolato to me is a controlled tailing loop (almost) positioned in the horizontal plane. Took me a while to be able to hit the target with that cast, while having a 90 degree an...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:58 am
Forum: Flycasting Physics
Topic: Question about tails
Replies: 68
Views: 5681

Re: Question about tails

Having shared some messages with Bernd the terms “tracking” and “tailing loops” have different meanings for us. For me tailing loops are tails in the loop plane. For Bernd he is in the rod plane. Tracking for me is the rod tip path perpendicular to rod plane. I think Bernd is simply a straight rod ...
by Bernd Ziesche
Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:12 am
Forum: Flycasting Physics
Topic: Question about tails
Replies: 68
Views: 5681

Re: Question about tails

Where we disagree is in what constitutes a tailing loop. For you it’s a dip in the rod plane, for me it’s a dip in the loop plane. Hi Paul :pirate: ;), Interesting. When the accelerational rod plane and the loop plane are different, what causes such a dip in loop plane then? Can't be the typical to...

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