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by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 2:27 pm
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Paul, In the first drawing it seems what you call rod plane is flat, while your rod was moved along a curved surface. When for you a plane can be curved, why you call the flat surface rod plane, when the rod was not moved in it? I would have thought rod plane then was the curved rod surface, that yo...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:28 pm
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Very good points, George. 100% agree. Exactly why I use tracking only for rod movement along a flat surface. I mainly look at the but section. The tip is impacted by a lot more as you said.

This whole thread shows why otherwise we always get tons of confusion as soon as the tip is involved.
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Yes I only look for left and right deviation in the mirror, which is tracking. To ensure that, you make sure it’s moving perfectly straight back and forward in the mirror with no twist. This is what holds most people back imo. (said for distance casting) That is easy understandable and makes perfec...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 12:10 pm
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

And yes tracking refers to the rod tip path (perpendicular to the casting plane/rod plane) That's not how Nick sees it. He looks along the rod plane for left/right side deviations. And you too said to look down along the length of the rod as I understood you. Perpendicular according to my dictionar...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:49 am
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

VGB wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:45 am The next step is to accept that straight and curved tracking is "proper" tracking which is directly related to intent.
Let's assume we never met. I am a total new student for you. What is tracking?
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 11:46 am
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Hi Vince, Let me put the whole relevant part of that fb conversation in here: Nick's line drifts to the inner side during unrolling and lands on his side of the tape after having started to unroll along the tape on the outer side. Can we agree on that? Yes, do you think it’s not possible to hit the ...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:40 am
Forum: Flycasting Physics
Topic: Measuring the Haul
Replies: 69
Views: 2267

Re: Measuring the Haul

The EFFA would fail Walter when not keeping the rod hand completely on the line hand side. But I agree with Walter, that is a none smart idea, because of the limits Walter described. Mel Krieger early on recommended to just bring over the rod tip. I like that! Sometimes I cast with my other hand or...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:05 am
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Where I disagree Bernd, is on your insistence on straight tracking. There are many uses of curved tracking, primarily for casting the loop in a different plane to the rod plane. And yes tracking refers to the rod tip path (perpendicular to the casting plane), and can also separately be referred to ...
by Bernd Ziesche
Tue Mar 05, 2024 7:35 am
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

Still when casting close the horizontal plane I see the biggest deviation in terms of bc and fc to unroll along a straight line (180 degree concept). So you are comparing the loop and rod plane. Hi Vince, No, I am not. I didn't mention rod plane to be connected with that deviation. The "bc and...
by Bernd Ziesche
Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:54 am
Forum: Teaching
Topic: Tracking and Loop planes
Replies: 176
Views: 5463

Re: Tracking and Loop planes

And then loop plane can be quite different to rod plane (by the 2 impacts I explained), while tip path may have been close to straight at some part and the rod was moved along a flat surface. In which case, the flat surface has no relationship to the desired output and has no practical value in my ...

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