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Thinner Lines = higher speed

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Post by guest » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:26 pm

I thought it was only for the hot potato owners club and was thinking of spraying a glass rod white.
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Post by Paul Arden » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:57 pm

Board members are very welcome of course! There may be a fire :cool:
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Post by Merlin » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:00 pm

Can we confirm that the issue is unresolved and that the topic can be considered as obsolete?
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Post by Paul Arden » Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:28 pm

Not yet! I’m just not fast but get there in the end :laugh:

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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:35 pm

Paul Arden wrote:Not yet! I’m just not fast but get there in the end :laugh:

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Get thinner, I hear you speed up then :p

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Post by guest » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:52 am

But he’ll get weaker :D
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Post by Lasse Karlsson » Fri Sep 07, 2018 6:58 am

VGB wrote:But he’ll get weaker :D
Not neccecarily Vince :p
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Post by Carol » Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:25 pm

Was a conclusive consensus every achieved at your post-competition soirée? We were just talking about this very thing (or something close enough) last night in our CCI COVID Zoom meeting.
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Post by carlz » Tue Aug 11, 2020 9:06 pm

I don't know if it was answered, but I presume the answer is because it takes more work to accelerate a heavier object. And you are limited by the caster's arm. If you build the same amount of momentum, the lighter line will travel faster (of course you also have to accelerate your arm and the rod, so it isn't quite so simple.

Of course the heavier line has more momentum so will also travel further for the same velocity.

The third factor on line diamenter I am sure also comes into play (more air resistance on the front face of the loop.

I would like to know what the consensus was.

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Post by Bernd Ziesche » Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:12 pm

Hi Paul,
I have no time to work thru all 6 pages here. Sorry for that.
Anyway I give it some thoughts on your initial post.
If I want fastest possible rotation, I take off line + tip section + middle section. Then I have less resistance to overcome and thus achieve fastest possible rotation for the butt section. The more weight and surface (friction) I add, the more it will slow my max possible speed.
Increasing line weight means more weight and more surface. Thus you feel more resistance.
Now if this slows you down should depend on how much line speed you aim for.
Since the relation between line surface (friction) and line mass gets worse when decreasing line weight (which is why we cast heavier lines further), you most probably have to add more speed to hit the same distance, I think. Since you also feel less resistance, I think you are spot-on in your findings and indeed will increase line speed for the same distance when going down in wt..
I don't really think it's much more complicated than that. But I very much might be wrong here. :)
To be honest I never realized this yet. Good point, mate!
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