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Danglin' line
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- Lasse Karlsson
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Re: Danglin' line
Bart, can't really see where he ticks there mate?
For years I would have an argument with Bernd, as he claimed everyone ticked on a long carry, some do but not all. And the fluff/end of leader can make it sound like it ticks... Even did a 85 foot carry standing knee deep in water to prove the point.
At CLA we had a fun competition, 7 weight long belly , 10 foot loomis glx comp, and 10 feet behind the caster there was a nice 4 feet fence.. lots of bad casting, and somehow also lots of good ones
Cheers
Lasse
For years I would have an argument with Bernd, as he claimed everyone ticked on a long carry, some do but not all. And the fluff/end of leader can make it sound like it ticks... Even did a 85 foot carry standing knee deep in water to prove the point.
At CLA we had a fun competition, 7 weight long belly , 10 foot loomis glx comp, and 10 feet behind the caster there was a nice 4 feet fence.. lots of bad casting, and somehow also lots of good ones
Cheers
Lasse
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- bartdezwaan
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Re: Danglin' line
That is exactly the thing
Most people don't notice it.
I think almost every backcast ticks. At 1m 3sec it is quit evident. I know it should be possible to share a link to youtube with the time at the right position, but I don't know how.
It is surely possible to not tick. In the competition I mentioned I actually set the dutch record. But I had to focus. So I can only assume that in less focus mode I am ticking
Cheers, Bart
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Ah. Found how I can share the link at the right time. It isn't quit the right time tho.
Play it at 0.25 of the original speed and you will see it.
Cheers, Bart
Play it at 0.25 of the original speed and you will see it.
Cheers, Bart
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Re: Danglin' line
To be honest. After looking better at it now, I can't be 100% sure that he is ticking.
I better shouldn't be drawing conclusions to quickly. I studied this video some while ago and was really sure that there was a clue of ticking.
Sorry for the confusion.
Cheers, Bart
I better shouldn't be drawing conclusions to quickly. I studied this video some while ago and was really sure that there was a clue of ticking.
Sorry for the confusion.
Cheers, Bart
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Re: Danglin' line
Weird bald guy
Sometimes it sounds like ticking if the dangle turns into an S. As the fluff goes around the S you hear it. Terrible conditions those. That’s my first trip to Malaysia.
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Sometimes it sounds like ticking if the dangle turns into an S. As the fluff goes around the S you hear it. Terrible conditions those. That’s my first trip to Malaysia.
Cheers, Paul
Re: Danglin' line
My supposition is that maybe the presence of the higher frequency 'wiggles' within the normally smooth 'S' shaped BDB is an indication of ticking. These 'wiggles' are in the OP's photo posted by Stephano (and in post #3) but not in the stills I captured from Lasse's video. There is a point in the video of Paul (as posted by Bart) where the wiggles are also present.
James.
James.
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Re: Danglin' line
Hi James
If you look at the high speed footage of Niklas Ericsson in Finland, you will see what happens when ticking yourself after a rushed backcast.
Not too sure that those few exstra wiggles there are from ticking.
But this thread had me slow down a cast from last week, and I noticed an old flaw my personal coach picked at over 10 years ago, better get going at iron it out again
Cheers
Lasse
If you look at the high speed footage of Niklas Ericsson in Finland, you will see what happens when ticking yourself after a rushed backcast.
Not too sure that those few exstra wiggles there are from ticking.
But this thread had me slow down a cast from last week, and I noticed an old flaw my personal coach picked at over 10 years ago, better get going at iron it out again
Cheers
Lasse
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I would have thought they came from timing. Or at least that’s one potential cause. Specifically hitting it slightly too early. I’ll see if so can get them off the roof of the Battleship.
Cheers, Paul
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Re: Danglin' line
Hi Lasse - nothing but a smooth BDB in the video you posted.
I'll be really interested to see if wrinkles in the BDB can be produced without a tick. If it's the Ericsson ST27 video I'm thinking about then I'll need to watch it again - I'm not interested in the issues with the line in front of the caster (I think that a separate issue to do with low angular momentum), I'm interested in the BDB formation and how it passes the caster - is it smooth or wrinkled?
Cheers, James
I'll be really interested to see if wrinkles in the BDB can be produced without a tick. If it's the Ericsson ST27 video I'm thinking about then I'll need to watch it again - I'm not interested in the issues with the line in front of the caster (I think that a separate issue to do with low angular momentum), I'm interested in the BDB formation and how it passes the caster - is it smooth or wrinkled?
Cheers, James
Re: Danglin' line
Hi Paul,Paul Arden wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 2:32 pm I would have thought they came from timing. Or at least that’s one potential cause. Specifically hitting it slightly too early. I’ll see if so can get them off the roof of the Battleship.
Cheers, Paul
So you hit the cast early - how do the wrinkles transmit from your rod tip all the way down the line without being observed, but then appear, clear as anything, in the BDB?
My supposition is that they travel the other way, i.e. they are generated by the tick at the fly end of the cast, and stay that vicinity.
Cheers, James