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Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:26 pm
by johnnybg
I believe the manufacturer was aware of the sealing issue and corrosion problem since there was a separate saltwater paragraph in the user manual back in early 2015.

And Sakke you're right again. An o-ring as a shaft seal or gland seal is definitely a poor choice.

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:23 pm
by Mangrove Cuckoo
Way back when I was the technical director for a couple of analytical laboratories there was always a board for important information that often changed periodically. But a mainstay on those boards was always a bullet point that simply read, "RTFM!"

There are few things that are as precise and temperamental as lab instruments, but if you paid attention they could also be impressively productive and profitable.

RTFM?

"Read The Fucking Manual!"

Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:38 pm
by Paul Arden
What I would like is a reel with a lever drag. Disc brakes would work fine! A bit like a bike. Something highly adjustable. And it should be at the front, not at the back.

Let’s say you are walking the flats and you need a bit more line. You have already set the damned drag! Now to unset it in order to strip line to make the shot. Or you are playing a fish: fish is at the surface up close, you don’t want 5KG of drag setting!

Cheers, Paul

Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:03 pm
by johnnybg
Paul Arden wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:38 pm
What I would like is a reel with a lever drag. Disc brakes would work fine! A bit like a bike. Something highly adjustable. And it should be at the front, not at the back.
Something the Danielsson Control reel, Paul?

https://youtu.be/rE-MSerW1OM?t=47

Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:10 pm
by sms
Paul, that is exactly why I love the drag adjustment on Mako. With a quick move (or two if I’m going from max to min or vice versa) I can readjust the drag. I always have my drag on the minimum setting when casting. It is so fast to set it to max that there is no problem with that. Usually I wait so that the fish is on the reel and then put the ”brakes on”. That way I have some possibility ease the line if it finds a bad spot to go round before everything is cleared and line coming from the reel to the stripping guide.

There have been some reels with lever drags (Fladen, Steelfin, Saracione had at least prototype and I think Scierra had one also), latest is Seigler I think. Lever drags are very unpleasant to my eyes thou.

In Danielsson Control you are essentially winding from the frame side. If line is going out, you basically tighten the drag from the handle. In Varioverse you had a bit similar option although the handle was on the normal side of the reel (and the mechanism became overloaded with the drag setting I use for tuna).

Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:05 pm
by Tom Benson
Will reserve further comments on this subject .......until the Mako Reel arrives....{ and I've had an opportunity to try it ooot }
Many thanks to all who have contributed ............
Confession .. excepting for my Danielson Original ( Nymph used on my 7 ' 6 " X 3 wt )
am exclusively ......WW Lamson
Tom

Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:20 pm
by Tom Benson
Of interest to Saltwater Reel Users.......
In his very interesting book , Salt Walter Fly fishing Fundamentals ... Peter Morse , of this parish ;
Recommends the use of an anticorrosive { a very useful concept for the saltwater community }... Duralac.

Tom
ps , I have no connection wiff this company : whoever , I have a signed copy of the above journal .

Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:18 pm
by carlz
I'm curious on people's opinions on the old cork, draw-bar style (Abel big game) reels. They are not maintenance free and the spools on the old BG models are not large arbor, but they are simple and easy to clean and work on. I presume Large Arbor is a must, but is the sealed drag that important? I am always cautions about new fly reels. The companies change the models so often that unless you are fishing 100 days a year, you won't see any problems in the reels before they come out with a new, improved model.

Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:58 am
by Lou Bruno
Anyone use anti-reverse reels when SW fishing....Tibor and Valentine reels?
Lou

Re: Saltwater Fly Reels

Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:21 am
by Graeme H
I've got a valentine that was almost given to me (close out sale). The drag is too sticky for serious fishing with (what they wrongly call "start up inertia".)

I haven't tried the Tibor but I don't find AR to be a big requirement. The weight penalty is not worth the investment, since an appropriate drag setting will prevent the handle smashing fingers.

I agree 100% about the quality of the Mako reels. I've got two of them and they are the reels I will never part with.

Cheers,
Graeme