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A Fast Rod?

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A Fast Rod?

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I've fished for years with a Greys GR50 9’ #5 rod. It’s sold as fast but it really isn't - at best it's medium-fast. I’ve recently tried a Sage Igniter for casting and loved it. But it's £900. Does anything like that rod exist at a sane price?
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Igniter is sold as ultra fast?

Magnus disagrees with your assesment of the greys as a medium fast rod, and even Bill Hanneman does too. https://www.flyfishing-and-flytying.co. ... ft_5_4pce/

If the CCS data is consistent throughout the range, then get a greys gr50 that has 7 written above the handle and use your 5 weight line on it :)

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Lasse Karlsson wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:29 pm Igniter is sold as ultra fast?
Yes. Whatever that means.
Magnus disagrees with your assesment of the greys as a medium fast rod, and even Bill Hanneman does too. https://www.flyfishing-and-flytying.co. ... ft_5_4pce/
I can't make it a fast rod and neither can the GAIA guys I've handed it to.
If the CCS data is consistent throughout the range, then get a greys gr50 that has 7 written above the handle and use your 5 weight line on it :)
I have the #5 and the #7. To my mind the #7 feels much faster than the #5. I'll try a #4 on the #5 :-)

But really, no other fast, cheap rods?

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Then you better quantify what you mean is a fast rod 🙂

And it was your 5 on the rod that says 7, not a 4 on the rod that says 5 that you think is medium fast whatever that means....

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Hi Colin,

Which line are you using on the 5?

As Lasse says underlining will make any rod feel “fast”. I haven’t cast the igniter here but it’s the TCR/X family. So I’m guessing ERN is 7-8? CCS data should help you find something similar.

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Paul Arden wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 1:37 am
Which line are you using on the 5?
Barrio GT90 #5
As Lasse says underlining will make any rod feel “fast”. I haven’t cast the igniter here but it’s the TCR/X family. So I’m guessing ERN is 7-8? CCS data should help you find something similar.
If only the rod database wasn't broken :cool:
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Well there is that :D
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Tangled wrote: Sat Jul 17, 2021 6:28 am

If only the rod database wasn't broken :cool:
Well, for any database to have the igniter 590 in it, someone has to have measured it.... the SL has been down since before the igniter predessesor the method, so theres also that.... measure the igniter and you have a starting point, but I would hazard an educated guess that you will end up where I suggested 🙂

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https://www.rodcents.org/ccs-database

One of the databases still available, look for something with ERN 7,5-8 AA of 70-72 and you have a starting point.

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