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Fly Rod Accuracy
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Re: Fly Rod Accuracy
I was thinking that it might be possible to scale everything down— instead of a 9 foot 9 weight to practice the 170 with a 5 weight line; use a 6 foot and 3wt line just to get the technique down. Instead of carrying 80 feet of line, carry 60 or whatever. Lighter, easier, less fatiguing, for longer practice sessions.
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Re: Fly Rod Accuracy
At the last FFI fair i was able to attend, Maxine and her coach were there. They did a number of demos with Maxine casting and her coaching talking. When they pick an accuracy rod they look for something old and heavy with heavy being the key. My guess is that they want to reduce any side to side wobbles during the stroke. Kind of relying on the mass to keep the tip moving in one path once it gets started assuming you won't need to make any change during the stroke.VGB wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:00 am This is a very subjective way of comparing the merits of the rod when you have measurable objectives. I understand that at the World casting championships, the US team are using old Fenwicks, which blows a hole in the technological improvements theory closing the gap between competitors.
To develop their accuracy cast they do 100's and 1000's of roll casts to develop an extremely short and consistent stroke. If they haven't succumbed to total bored beyond wanting to continue at that point they get to make airborne casts.
Of course that could be all Yankee propaganda designed to get the competition to switch.
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PSS. How to generate a climbing loop through control of the casting stroke is left as a (considerable) exercise to the reader.
PS. I have a flying tank. Your argument is irrelevant.
PSS. How to generate a climbing loop through control of the casting stroke is left as a (considerable) exercise to the reader.
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Re: Fly Rod Accuracy
Side wobbles? Sounds like BS...
Same type of training Tim told me his brother does, funny that practice seems to work, who would have thought
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Lasse
Same type of training Tim told me his brother does, funny that practice seems to work, who would have thought
Cheers
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Thanks Walter. Very interesting!
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Although I agree with Lasse about how essential practice is, I’ve had similar thoughts to Walter about the rod.
A softer rod gets you into the thicker part of the taper quickly and may be more stable, I also think that the timing is easier and it seems like you have a larger margin for error on the cast with slower rods. I tend to practice with fast rods but use a slower set up for demo work because I’m more consistent with outcome. However, my absolute distance has always been better with the faster rod.
All of this is just conjecture and as scientific as carrying a fluffy gonk key ring for luck, confidence counts for a lot.
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A softer rod gets you into the thicker part of the taper quickly and may be more stable, I also think that the timing is easier and it seems like you have a larger margin for error on the cast with slower rods. I tend to practice with fast rods but use a slower set up for demo work because I’m more consistent with outcome. However, my absolute distance has always been better with the faster rod.
All of this is just conjecture and as scientific as carrying a fluffy gonk key ring for luck, confidence counts for a lot.
Regards
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I think stance matters more
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I’ve heard the softer rod from so many places now I believe it. But you have to practise with it I would totally listen to anything Chris says.
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You need to get some muscle on those thighs for stability, you won’t get anywhere propped up by pipe cleaners
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Re: Fly Rod Accuracy
Looking forward to that 100 foot non dominant hand throw with a noodle from you, you should get 5/5 thenPaul Arden wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:35 am I’ve heard the softer rod from so many places now I believe it. But you have to practise with it I would totally listen to anything Chris says.
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Re: Fly Rod Accuracy
The description of the rod characteristics was from her coach. The conjecture about side wobbles is mine because I was trying to imagine how that would affect accuracy. It could be rod stability as Vince says, it could be the ability to maintain slp over those distances, it could be mambo jumbo or a combination of all of those. High performance athletes will do all sorts of things to get themselves into a certain state of mind that others wouldn’t necessarily understand and for gains of what amounts to microseconds or millimeters. Hair shaving, for example. Once one person sets a record after shaving their legs the rest of their peer group is pretty quick to do the same based on “science” even though the best science can say is that it might give you a millisecond of advantage but it definitely won’t make you slower. Take it from there and the sports companies develop full body suits for streamlining and propagate the myth. Kind of like saying faster rods are better.
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PS. I have a flying tank. Your argument is irrelevant.
PSS. How to generate a climbing loop through control of the casting stroke is left as a (considerable) exercise to the reader.
PS. I have a flying tank. Your argument is irrelevant.
PSS. How to generate a climbing loop through control of the casting stroke is left as a (considerable) exercise to the reader.