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Hauling and taking power out of rod hand.

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Re: Hauling and taking power out of rod hand.

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Post by clayed21085 » Fri Oct 04, 2019 7:59 pm

I'm sorry I meant "not relaxing" after the stop contributing to problems.

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Re: Hauling and taking power out of rod hand.

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Post by Paul Arden » Sat Oct 05, 2019 1:50 pm

It shouldn’t cause problems. I notice that I often have a hard grip after the delivery on a comp distance cast. However as a method of curing tails I can offer no reasoning off the top of my head :D

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Re: Hauling and taking power out of rod hand.

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Post by clayed21085 » Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:07 pm

What about excessive counterflex after the stop causing the tip to raise? I could see a severe bounce having the lines cross, I dunno.

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Post by Paul Arden » Sun Oct 06, 2019 4:29 am

A tailing loop is quite a specific loop where a wave in the fly leg dips down and intersects the rod leg. So this can only occur during the casting stroke and not afterwards. Ie its cause is somewhere during the rod tip path from the start of the casting stroke up to RSP.

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Re: Hauling and taking power out of rod hand.

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Post by clayed21085 » Sun Oct 06, 2019 1:26 pm

Do you ever have students that punch it too hard at the end? Which raises the question is how hard is a hard stop? Just a slight squeeze or maintaining a really strong squeeze at the end, the word Powersnap I think can be misleading as a really powerful event when in reality you just need to stop the tip then immediately relax.

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Re: Hauling and taking power out of rod hand.

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Post by Paul Arden » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:37 pm

The hard stop is a teaching aid to prevent someone not stopping and to hopefully accelerate the rod towards the end of the stroke. Certainly it can cause problems in more advanced students particularly with the double haul where unlearning the hard stop becomes important for distance.

It sounds to me that you are in this second category :) That’s why thinking about the haul and forgetting about the stop is working for you (other discussion!). But this won’t apply to everyone and it probably didn’t apply to you when you first started! There are ladders to climb in learning casting I think you have moved to a different ladder! Well done by the way - now you are really learning to cast :D

Have a look at this - https://www.sexyloops.com/index.php/ps/ ... -challenge This will help focus your casting practise and give you goals. If you want to work towards this I will certainly help and makes my life easier with regards your training too! :cool:

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