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Trailing loop or tailing loop ?

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Who is casting ?

There is a big difference between the forward and the backward cast and it is no so difficult to guess who is making a "fault" in back casting.

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That's Mel, and can't see a fault :)

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Hi Lasse

How would you qualify the shape of the loop in the backcast ?
It looks as if it was tailing. At least it does not look like the nearly perfect shape of the loop in the forward cast.

No, it's not Mel.

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Flyleg is straight, no waves, hence no tail. Down under it would be called a trailling loop since the flyleg appears to be below the rodleg in the loop, but we can't say for sure with a still picture :) If we change the angle at which we look at that backcast, it might just be off plane. And quite alot of loops start out trailling before ending up looking nice and parallel.
But I have heard that kind of loop being called a tailling loop, lots of incorrect drawings around in the world, so it pops up now and again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy3qLM3EOEI

Really love the comments :D

Dang hat fooled me, who's the caster then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHuueOVBm84

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I say Jim Green.
"There can be only one." - The Highlander. :pirate:

PS. I have a flying tank. Your argument is irrelevant.

PSS. How to generate a climbing loop through control of the casting stroke is left as a (considerable) exercise to the reader.
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I'll second that Walter.
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Congratulations.

Jim Green effectively (JGBW = Jim Green Backward). The full video is posted on Marc Fauvet's web site. An interesting one including the delivery of true tailing loops by "shocking the tip".

Given the rather small difference in between trailing and tailing, at least for a beginner, what I see in a transverse wave is just a risk not to land the fly properly. Are not we splitting hairs sometimes? If the tailing loop is intentional, is it a casting fault?

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The difference is rather large Daniel, even to a beginner if told the truth...

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Ok so to eliminate some confusion there should be a definition for a trailing loop, since this is something common in practice.

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Why? It happens when we slow down, lengthen the line and cast upwards. Or if we change the casting plane, majority of tight loops are on the side normal ones ;) and they trail then :p

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